Last year, David Poland did an experiment. He asked the Gurus to rank the top movies that had been seen, then to rank those that hadn’t yet been seen. Around the same time, Gold Derby experts were polled and those lists weren’t much different from the lists at Movie City News. In other words, we had no clue how the Oscar race was going to go beyond a handful of titles that were obvious sure bets, and some that seemed like they might go, but in the end did not catch fire after the critics voted, then the industry voted, then Oscar voted.
All eventual nine Best Picture nominees were somewhere on that list but they were mixed up all over the place. How they would all eventually settle became clearer into November but, back in October, five or six was about the highest pundits got when you counted them out on MCN and at Gold Derby.
Looking over last year’s Gurus of Gold, a poll taken directly after the New York Film Festival, you will see a list that’s a little like herding cats. We were all wrong in various ways. We had the top films kind of right but after that things got muddied.
There is a great time-capsule piece at Gold Derby where Tom, with his usual flare for making the Oscar race exciting, bet Scott Feinberg that Life of Pi would get a Best Picture nomination. Feinberg is usually on the money when it comes to drop dead Oscar predictions but sometimes we are all undone by our own perceptions, or our opinions. Our opinions on films are probably our worst indicators when it comes to predicting Oscars. But then again, the opposite of that would be always second guessing voters and no one wants to do that either.
In the early stages of the Oscar race, like right now, it’s difficult to gauge what voters will do when given a handful of films to choose from. We think we know how it might go but really we have no idea. Here is how Scott reported the event on the Hollywood-Reporter:
I must confess that I am skeptical about its Oscar prospects.
But, while it looks to be a strong below-the-line contender, I’m not sure that I see it contending strongly in the higher-profile categories. To my eye it is, frankly, uneven — its pacing is off, it feels too long, and its third-act twist is something between confusing and aggravating. I suspect that those who check it out will, by and large, come away from it feeling respect more than passion, which is the key to cracking into the best picture race under the new voting system (as opposed to the old one which rewarded widespread support). In short, I think it will face an uphill climb for best picture, best director, and best adapted screenplay noms.
And here’s the money shot:
My sense from talking to a wide cross-section of the industry at the post-screening party is that virtually everyone liked the film, but few loved it, and that makes it a tough awards sell.
There are dozens of these articles online that report on what Academy members supposedly thought of films. In the end, Life of Pi was a massive Oscar success, 11 nominations (including Picture, Director and Screenplay) and winning Director, along with three other Oscar victories (Best Cinematography, Best Score, Best Visual Effects).
Tom declared in his piece, “While I’m sure, Scott, that some academy members will share your view of “Life of Pi,” quite a few will feel the same way I did after seeing it: knocked out, dazzled and amazed. I think it’s not only one of the best films of 2012, but one of those films for the ages.”
Though Scott politely declined his bet, Tom did get some other pundits on record with Life of Pi (myself included, “Right now I feel like three films can win: ‘Argo,’ ‘Silver Linings’ and ‘Life of Pi,’ she asserts. “‘Life of Pi,’ ‘Beasts of the Southern Wild’ and to an extent, ‘Silver Linings’ are all films that pack an emotional punch. One should never count out films that do that, even if they are roasted by the critics — take ‘Extremely Loud,’ for example.”)
Anne Thompson also said “This movie will play for critics, audiences and awards givers all over the world. It has the right elements: globally popular literary source (7 million copies sold); heart-warming family story from an A-list Oscar-winning director (“Brokeback Mountain”); and epic VFX.”
But I can’t let myself off the hook that easily. Of the movies unseen last year around this time I had The Monuments Men ranked at number 1. That was how that movie was being perceived before it was pushed to the following year, mostly panned by critics and written out of the race.
The thing about being an Oscar pundit – the more right you think you are and the more you talk about that, the harder the fall. We need only go back to 2010 to remember the horror, the horror.
Last year many of us were convinced Inside Llewyn Davis, All is Lost and The Butler would get Best Picture nominations. With two of those titles it was, admittedly, wishful thinking but with one, the reliable Coens, I really thought it had a shot, so did many others on both Gold Derby and the Gurus of Gold.
We were wrong. Movies that seemed to have a shot, like Saving Mr. Banks, The Monuments Men, The Secret Life of Walter Mitty, Fruitvale Station did not make it in. Props to Greg Ellwood, Pete Hammond and David Poland for predicting Philomena so early. But for the most part, we had many films we thought would be Oscar favorites that didn’t, for one reason or another.
By the next time the Gurus got together, November 6, 2013, they still weren’t together with nominees. David Poland had the most right, predicting 8 out of the eventual 9, while most topped out at 7 out of 9. But it was by no means a solid consensus. Even by December 14, 2013 there was no solid consensus for Best Picture yet. This is highly unusual, I must say. To be in mid December and not know?
The one thing that isn’t too hard to guess, though, is what will WIN Best Picture. Going back to 2006, the Best Picture winner was at least in the top four by October. That doesn’t means 2014 will be the same way, what with all of the late-breaking films still to come, but history tells us that much at least.
History tells us that there is a high probability that your Best Picture winner will be:
1. Boyhood
2. The Imitation Game
3. Birdman
Again, a pattern is only a pattern until the pattern is broken. By October we can be mostly sure our winner is on the radar. But when it comes to nominees our perceptions can be very easily shifted, either by listening to what Oscar voters are excited about, or judging the race on what we already know.
As it stands now, the top two look like they’re going to be the ones in the race for Best Picture but we can’t know what will be Boyhood’s (or Imitation Game’s) biggest challenger until the films open. The two most promising challengers that have not been seen could be:
1. Interstellar (actually has been seen by several people)
2. Unbroken
But when we’re talking about nominees, the picture changes quite dramatically. That is when you divide up between good movies, great movies and Oscar movies. When one second guesses what Oscar movies might be one can sometimes trip up — Life of Pi, Wolf of Wall Street, etc. That movie this year is Gone Girl. Closing in fast on $100 in three weeks, the only film in the race written by a woman, and the one that has captured the zeitgeist — out there.
The other films very much in the race would be The Theory of Everything (Oscar movie through and through), Foxcatcher (one that is being second guessed by pundits as being “too dark”) and Whiplash, which I should have among my predicted films but for whatever reason forgot to do that this time around.
There are so many questions still unanswered about this year. We have absolutely no idea where some of these movies might land, like The Gambler, like A Most Violent Year, like Unbroken, like Interstellar, like Selma, like Into the Woods — big question marks all the way around.
Might this be the year the pre-October slate is wiped clean and all of the late breaking movies find their way into the race, dramatically shifting how the Oscar race works? It’s possible. But here’s what to do when contemplating that possibility, and the reason why October-November almost always decides the race, at least for Best Picture.
The combination of the time crunch and busy voters who don’t see everything usually has a race that relies heavily on these crucial weeks before early December. We didn’t have Gurus of Gold the last time a late breaking movie changed the race. That was Million Dollar Baby, ten years ago. When Oscar pushed their date back one month, from March to February, it altered the landscape for choosing Best Picture completely.
A couple of things to watch as we move into the critics awards phase:
- The New York Film Critics are the first major group to ring in. For the past two years, they’ve anointed their top pick a movie that had not yet been widely seen nor screened. American Hustle last year and Zero Dark Thirty. Will they again pick a movie no one has yet seen, thus helping to launch it squarely into the Oscar race?
- Which film will emerge as the “cool” critics darling? Right now, the best-reviewed and most praised films by critics would be: Boyhood and Whiplash, with Birdman just behind. But it doesn’t feel like the film critics will rally their unanimous support around has emerged. Perhaps it has but I’m just not seeing it. I don’t think it’s going to be Boyhood because I think that film is going to win Best Picture and I don’t think critics are going to want to go along with the status quo. On the other hand, maybe they will.
- Will it be something still to come? American Sniper perhaps? Interstellar? We’ll know it when it hits the surface because it will make a GIANT SPLASH.
- Which film will the larger consensus voters agree on? It can’t be too divisive, it can’t have a dark ending, it has to be uplifting, and it has to bespeak the goodness in humanity. You have to figure most voters are on mood lifters by this point. Isn’t everyone on anti-depressants? And those who aren’t are even more inclined to fumble towards that which makes them feel good.
- Potential for Picture/Director split where the directing prize goes to a big-budget effects film that is infused with human emotion, a la Gravity, Life of Pi. Will that be Interstellar? Will the awards split again?
- Think FIVE not nine. One of the biggest mistakes people make is forgetting how Oscar voters vote. This might have helped some of us figure it out last year. Voters get only five slots to pick the year’s best. When they count the ballots they allow for spillover but you’re still really talking about five. So when you hear people say “it will get in with nine but wouldn’t with five” that’s important. This is why there will never be an animated film in the Best Picture race and probably why genre movies have a hard time too. Think about your typical Academy member and imagine what film HE would put in his top five. Work backwards form there.
- The DGA and the Oscar category for Best Director could be wildly different in a wide open year. The Oscar ballots are going to be turned in before the DGA releases their five nominees. The DGA membership is 15,000. The Oscar Best Director branch numbers around 400 individuals. Big difference there. It didn’t matter last year. It really mattered the year before. The Argo year was dramatically changed by the directors branch. But as with all things related to Best Picture, always lead with the director. Revered directors who hit it out of the park (Ang Lee for Life of Pi, Cuaron for Gravity – and this year, Fincher with Gone Girl, Inarritu with Birdman, Linklater for Boyhood, Nolan for Interstellar, Eastwood for American Sniper) tend to be more important than a likable film whose director is less known or hasn’t yet earned their chops. 100% true all of the time? No. The Weinstein Co is especially good at bringing an unknown director to a win – did it twice in 2010 and 2011.
- Actors matter. The number of actors more than double every other branch in the Academy. (There are very nearly more actors in the Academy than Directors, Producers and Writers combined. Let that sink in.) This is why films with only one or two actors have never won Best Picture and why Gravity never could have. Actors are the ones who do not want to be replaced by CGI or performance capture. Actors are the ones who back films like Dallas Buyers Club over films like Inside Llewyn Davis. Actors like movies that have lots of actors in them and films that showcase actors more than effects or even showy direction. It’s almost always about the goddamned actors. Remember that.Of course, a film like Boyhood transcends many of these rules because no other Best Picture contender can boast a 12-year-long film shoot. It falls into the “extraordinary” category and sometimes those movies are simply too big, too important to ignore.
- Smear campaigns/Social Justice Blow Ups/Sympathy Votes. One of the clever tricks of Oscar season, mastered by some campaigners, is to plant a negative story about a film that actually ends up garnering sympathy for the movie and thus, creating a sense of urgency to vote for it. In other words, a so-called smear campaign that ‘backfires.’ Sometimes it isn’t even a plant but just a negative story that ends up garnering sympathy. But smear campaigns are real. Watch out for them. Rival studios will often try to spread either big stories or whisper campaigns, like “Saving Private Ryan was only about the first 30 minutes.”
- Finally, this is a game. Remember that good movies, great movies are here for the taking. You don’t need a weather man to know which way the wind blows. You don’t need a consensus to tell YOU what a good movie is. It’s nice to see them win or even to be nominated but it can’t possibly mean much beyond revealing who these people were at a given point in time. Love the movies you love. Play the game to win.
My current predictions for Best Picture for realsies without the sight unseen films:
1. Boyhood. Linklater’s lovely tribute to growing up, or more specifically, how various people you come in contact with end up changing you. The whole family grows up before our eyes. Written, filmed over 12 years, and transformed into two hours that pass in the blink of an eye. Linklater is paying tribute to the biggest teachers in his life because this is a film about that: his mother being the most potent of these. For the first time, Linklater has the opportunity to showcase his masterful storytelling, without the aid of actors collaborating through improv. That gives Boyhood focus, and ultimately makes it powerful.
2. Gone Girl. The wickedly funny black comedy masterpiece by one of America’s finest directors. The Oscar voters don’t yet know what to do with David Fincher other than not give him awards. Like Scorsese before him, Fincher’s work always flies on a different frequency than what the consensus wants. And it’s all the better for it. A wildly different interpretation of the popular Gillian Flynn novel, Gone Girl is a top-to-bottom satire of modern culture, of marriage, of women and men, of illusion and Hitchcock blondes. Dark for most people this Oscar season is going to be Birdman. But there’s dark and there’s DARK. No other director working in Hollywood has as razor sharp focus, such a deliberate thumbprint as Fincher.
3. The Imitation Game. If there is one movie that can unseat Boyhood, it’s this one, but here at number three only because its director is not yet known, and is someone voters will have to get to know. That’s a tricky prospect. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen. The film has much going for it, with a bravura performance by Benedict Cumberbatch. It’s a touching crowd-pleaser that can move just about anyone to tears. It is important in that it brings two issues to light: persecution of homosexuals by the British legal system of the 1930s, ’40s and ’50s, and autism or spectrum disorders. You won’t find a more sympathetic protagonist than Alan Turing except for …
4. The Theory of Everything. Which is going to bring some heat to The Imitation Game as it is about another British genius/hero Stephen Hawking. Both Turning and Hawking changed the world. That is no exaggeration. They changed the world. Hawking is still changing it. Again, like Imitation Game, Theory of Everything’s director is James Marsh, not the most well known in town. The object will be getting people to know him. The film is a crowd-pleaser, according to Pete Hammond, and features a top shelf performance by Eddie Redmayne. This seems to be the film that Oscar voters will respond to — I will be able to tell you more once I see it at the end of this month.
5. Birdman. Like Gone Girl (and every great film) it’s divisive, but it’s less divisive than Gone Girl and more well liked, at least by critics at this stage. How it’s going to play for Academy members is up for debate but there is no denying the brilliant work by the ensemble cast (SAG nod for ensemble all but guaranteed) and that it is a movie that will ultimately APPEAL to actors. It is about actors. It’s about theater – in a way. Wildly subversive, sometimes deeply moving, always snarky and full of spite – Birdman is one of the best films of the year.
6. Foxcatcher. This is another one that could be carried through with the support of actors. Like Gone Girl and Birdman it’s dark, really dark. Brilliant but dark. The ensemble, including Mark Ruffalo, Channing Tatum, Vanessa Redgrave and especially Steve Carell, but the trick here is going to be how many dark movies are going to get in and how many uplifting movies aren’t. Usually the darker films take a back seat. Birdman is in but Gone Girl and Foxcatcher will require strong support by directors and actors and below the line categories.
7. Whiplash. Coming up from behind, a surefire crowd-pleaser that fits absolutely in line with Academy voters. A perfect film from start to finish, about the notion of achievement, what a person can take and what a person can’t take. Really, though, it’s a showcase performance between two men, two very good actors – JK Simmons and Miles Teller. If I have any sticking points with Whiplash it’s that my own frustrations with the male-centric trends of films these days prevents me from falling in love with the movie – one supporting female as a love interest? My father is a jazz drummer and I’ve grown up with jazz and have played in orchestras. One thing I know about music groups: they are not male-centric. There are females here or there. Why not a single one in Whiplash? But that’s not really a criticism so much as it is a personal bias – and it isn’t fair but in case anyone is wondering why I am not falling all over myself about this most excellent film, that’s really the reason. On the other hand, wow. What a great movie.
8. The Grand Budapest Hotel. Still kicking around here in the early stages, though it’s likely to be washed away by what’s coming next. In fact, many of the dark horse contenders like Wild, The Homesman, etc., reside on the fringe here – they aren’t making any lists because people are making way for the films that have not yet been seen.
And that’s as far as it goes.
The films that are coming next have their place being held in line:
Interstellar
American Sniper
Unbroken
Selma
A Most Violent Year
The Gambler
Into the Woods
A few of them will go all the way and a few won’t. But it’s unlikely ALL will.
By the middle of next month we should have a much clearer idea of what the Best Picture lineup will be.
In the other categories, the frontrunners are, according to the Gurus:
And here is how Gold Derby measures it:
“Think FIVE not nine.”
This is a familiar refrain around here and once again, I assert that the change from voters picking ten films in 2009/10 to five films in 2011-13 has minimal bearing on the race.
Voters’ ballots end up in one pile. Unless a voter used to put obscure films in spots 1-5 and last ditch more popular ones in 6-10 to ensure that their ballot would last the shuffling (a scenario which is highly unlikely given consensus among the Academy), then the lack of picks 6-10 nowadays does not affect things. Most Academy members surely vote for an eventual nominee somewhere in their top five. What comes after that five is of no consequence.
Why have there been no animated films in the race between 2011-2013? Because there weren’t any BP-friendly animated films in those years! Rango ran away with a lackluster animated race in 2011 despite few caring that much about it and the 2012 films all had detractors. Frozen was never in the BP conversation. But I assure you, had Up or Toy Story 3 come out in 2011/12/13, they would have made the lineup.
Like, keep in mind, for a 20-year-old like myself, Boyhood hit the zeitgeist exactly. Ellar Coltrane is my age. He is not going to resonate as strongly with most Oscar voters.
Actually BOYHOOD has tended to resonate more the older the demo. Of course, this totally anecdotal (I know a lot of people), but I’m sure this is how it has gone down, everyone? It’s also how most critics anticipated the film to play out, and I mean those who needlessly anticipate a film’s audience. I’m pretty sure almost every one (i.e., 90%+) of those who have declared BOYHOOD the second coming is past their early twenties — so I would think the opposite of what you’re saying is true, that it’ll do very well with most Oscar voters. I would finally argue the film hits the zeitgeist with pretty much every human being who has been alive and conscious during the past decade. Sorry to disagree so utterly. I don’t feel strongly about it.
Earth to Sasha: Gone Girl sucked, and it won’t be nominated for Best Picture. Get a grip.
I wouldn’t mind Boyhood winning, because Richard Linklater is way overdue, and at some point the Academy is going to have to start belatedly awarding the Indie Generation. But it’s a very problematic movie and kind of a bore.
I have been feeling for the longest time that BOYHOOD will win BP (and the director BD) and that’s somehow been decided already and we’re just sitting around here deciding on the four to nine runners-up for our amusement. I HAVE NO PROBLEM BEING WRONG JUST OUT OF THE SHEER FACT THAT BEING RIGHT WOULD MAKE THIS SO BORING……well, at least for me….can someone else besides UBOURGEOIS give me encouragement? I also already have a similar feeling about Julianne Moore and JK Simmons thought not as strong. At least it seems like the Best Supporting Actress and now the Best Actor race might have some drama in it until the end…..
Ever since I saw the teaser trailer for Foxcatcher a year ago, I’ve had a feeling it was gonna win Best Picture. Even after being pushed back a year, the subsequent trailers have only ratcheted up the intensity and my desire to see the film. It has a number of things going for it too: Bennett Miller is due, they can all three actors marvelous, it’s a true story, and it’s already won awards at Cannes. If I had to bet right now, I would put my money on Foxcatcher.
@ Devon – It seems you don’t think Fatal Attraction or Gone Girl are high quality movies deserving of Oscar recognition. You have questionable judgement of taste.
Fatal Attraction still holds up to this day. Glenn Close gave a riveting performance that helped the movie rake in the box office and garner critical praise. It’s a fairly rare type of film that is sadly missing from modern line ups. The movie was so well made and everyone involved provided such great effort! A defining movie of the 1980’s, for sure. Watch it again and you may find out where you are wrong.
Didn’t Fatal Attraction lose every Oscar that it was nominated for? It’s fine if you loved Gone Girl. I don’t expect it to win any awards.
I have seen Gone Girl today in a movie theater. It is weaker than Fincher’s last films (Benjamin Button, Social Network) in terms of directing but it is good fun. Has it anything to do on Oscar turf? We will see but I would say it is much better than Silver Linings Playbook with EIGHT nominations !!
“Gone Girl does not feel like an Oscar movie to me, anymore than Fatal Attraction did in 1987.”
I don’t understand this statement. Fatal Attraction was nominated for Picture, Director, Actress, Supporting Actress, Screenplay, Editing – so even if you were right (which you are not, I don’t really care if something “feels” like an “Oscar movie” to you) your Oscar history is still way off.
“Still Alice” is sooo out in front now for Best Actress. It’s got a career-best performance by Julianne Moore. Who in the film is admittedly 50, and still beguilingly beautiful and magnetic. The transistions/transformations she has to go through as an early on-set Alzheimer’s victim makes Julie Christie’s Oscar-nominated work for “Away From Her” a few years back look like a doodle.
AND she’s been nominated FOUR times, even losing one year twice in TWO categories! She could even turn up in a very weak category so far this year, as Best Supporting Actress for “Maps to the Stars” which is doing a one week qualifying run in NY and LA. But they aren’t spending A DIME on its’ Oscar campaign other than that.
“Still Alice” was a beautiful, beautiful movie. And her character wildly sympathetic, and also brainy, complex, articulate, a Columbia U. professor no less. Julianne FTW! Redheads RULE!
Not even a mention of Mike Leigh’s “Mr. Turner” in your supposedly definitive list of films which stand a chance in picture/director?
too many British genius’s this year. splits their vote. Cumberbatch (Harv) needs to get established as The Brit first. Until then GG is ahead of Imitation.
I don’t see GG as winning the big critics awards, but I can see it getting launched as a contender at the Globes. Any chance they slot it as comedy?
Good to have another contender out. GG vs Boyhood had gotten silly. It’s still just mental masturbation until Unbroken and Interstellar are seen.
Too bad about Pitt/Fury. I’m ready to see Pitt collect one. Not this time.
I have a funny feeling that when we’ve seen everything, it won’t be difficult to whittle it down to five. It just doesn’t seem like a big year to me and most of the titles that are still unseen seem like specialty movies. Meaning not universally acclaimed. And they certainly don’t seem like movies for “folks”. Maybe I’m wrong but even The Theory of Everything which should be uplifting-ish seems like it could be great but with no stars I dunno, I’d be surprised if it really made it.
Birdman, Gone Girl, Interstellar and Exodus will be the people’s movies. Birdman, from what I can tell seems like it has the chops but if Interstellar should blow people away it could be overshadowed with the later zeitgeist going to Interstellar. It seems to me like it’s Nolan’s to lose but I don’t know why I’m nervous about it. My trust is suspect. lol I’m going on the 5th to Boston for 35 mm. You wouldn’t believe how ridiculous the 70mm IMAX situation is. I don’t like IMAX anyway but still. I feel like Exodus is going to be too late even if all my vibes keep going toward that movie. It just looks so impressive.
AMERICAN SNIPER has something major going for it which none of the other contenders have – topicality. A year ago, everyone would have said ‘Nobody wants to see another movie about Iraq – it’s in the past, let’s move on’. But suddenly Iraq is current again and dominating the news agenda. Added to this the fact it’s directed by a much-loved Hollywood veteran and, judging by the trailer, looks pretty impressive as filmmaking, I should regard this as this year’s HURT LOCKER or ZERO DARK THIRTY.
I don’t really get how Foxcatcher in general and Ethan Hawke for Boyhood in particular are so underrated in the oscar race. Foxcatcher is directed by someone whose first two movies were nominated for best film, and Foxcatcher is very well received (the darkness is there but is it so darker than Capote ?). I believe it is Boyhood’s main rival. Ethan Hawke is important in Boyhood, a movie unlikely to receive many nominations in spite of wide support (basically it can hope for film, director, screenplay, editing and those two supporting slots, cinematography maybe like the editing nom for Dallas buyers club that seemed to come out of nowhere). So in a category that seems weak to experts, I don’t see how he is (or at least was until very recently) ranked so low in general, and absent from quite a few lists.
I have not seen Theory of everything and Imitation Game yet, but I don’t see also Eddie Redmayne AND Benedict Cumberbatch both edging out Timothy Spall, Channing Tatum (also underrated in the race), Ben Affleck and Miles Teller. Those last two who I think belong in the ‘Jesse Eisenberg (Social Network)’ category of ‘hardly a possibility of making it’ but helped by the support for the film. Christian Bale for American Hustle was hardly a shoo-in last year and the success of the movie helped like it helped Eisenberg (and maybe DiCaprio too last year also) and may help Affleck and/or Teller. I wish I could had Ellar Coltrane to that list but that seems highly unlikely alas.
In the best actress category, in spite of Amy Adams’ potential sixth and Julianne Moore’s fifth nominations, I expect Rosamund Pike to prevail for gone girl, with Gillian Flynn for her adaptation and Reznor/Ross for the score to join her.
Supporting actor : J.K.Simmons (I hope Whiplash will be acknowledged in below the line awards, cinematography, editing and sound are great) and I also expect Neil Patrick Harris to be in the top five too. And I’d love to see Carrie Coon or Kim Dickens to be there too.
Boyhood wins New York .
Reading about the impact of the actor’s branch at the Academy Awards has me thinking.
Last year when people on this board tried asserting that Gravity would win Best Picture over 12YAS, I didn’t believe it because I thought: Gravity has no SAG Ensemble nomination and won’t be winning best picture without support from the Actors. This turned out to be true.
Now we have Boyhood, which Sasha is asserting sits in the frontrunners seat. Well there is a serious possibility that Boyhood will be overlooked by SAG by year’s end. There are movies boasting great ensembles ie. Gone Girl, Foxcatcher, Birdman, Interstellar (with MM, Hathaway, Chastain, Caine), Into the Woods, Selma perhaps…does Boyhood have the same depth in terms of an ensemble as some of its contenders. Personally, I don’t think so and if Boyhood does not secure a SAG nod for their version of Best Picture, I certainly don’t see that film walking away with the Gold Statue.
Also, just saw Whiplash and thought it was a really good movie. JK Simmons stole the show for me so I don’t see how he’s not getting nominated and Miles Teller was also very impressive. On the whole, I think the film was very well done from its direction on down. Next Up: Birdman!
Birdman takes New York.
It will be interesting to see if it appeals to industry narcissism.
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Agreed with this. Boyhood may take screenplay and Arquette. And then I think LA stands up for one of the “dark” films, probably Foxcatcher.
@UBourgeois: AMPAS is not immune to cool choices. As Sasha often cites, they awarded NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN and THE HURT LOCKER, neither of which seemed as explicitly Oscar friendly as something like UNBROKEN. If we can cast aside the “too dark” argument in the wake of 12 YEARS, then surely we can do the same with the “too cool” contention in the wake of NO COUNTRY and HURT LOCKER. In the case of NO COUNTRY, the campaign seemed to be focused on awarding the Coens, who (despite their screenplay win for FARGO) still felt overdue for recognition in director and picture. THE HURT LOCKER was, of course, the scrappy underdog pitted against big, bad AVATAR and a chance to make history and award Bigelow. Make no mistake, these movies didn’t win because they were better (though I happen to think they were). They won because they were “cooler” choices and that stems from campaign narratives.
I’m still not sold on the “Boyhood as BP frontrunner” narrative I keep hearing. I don’t think people get how “cool” a choice that would be – much cooler than is typical for the Academy. Something like Foxcatcher, Unbroken, or even Birdman or Gone Girl feel less strange as Oscar winners (the “too dark” argument can’t work in the shadow of 12 Years a Slave). Like, keep in mind, for a 20-year-old like myself, Boyhood hit the zeitgeist exactly. Ellar Coltrane is my age. He is not going to resonate as strongly with most Oscar voters. I think it will be seen as a novelty to recognize by way of nominations, but not awards.
Gone Girl does not feel like an Oscar movie to me, anymore than Fatal Attraction did in 1987. I even have doubts that Rosamund Pike deserves a nomination. The movie felt flat and cheesy, with many remarking that it was terrible.
Why do you admit Birdman has a better shot than Gone Girl, but have it lower on the prediction list?
Birdman takes New York.
It will be interesting to see if it appeals to industry narcissism.
The sign that Boyhood is a real player and not just occupying the Beasts of the Southern Wild slot is if it gets nominations for editing and Ethan Hawke for a total of six. Then you can argue a viable BP path without a lot of below the line nods.
Lol plz everybody knows Exodus doesn’t stand a fucking chance.
I’m sure that IMITATION GAME is a good for a nod. However, I won’t really see it as a threat to WIN until some sort of clear campaign narrative emerges. Take for instance, David Seidler’s personal connection to THE KING’S SPEECH, SLUMDOG’s “almost straight to DVD” chestnut, the supposed novelty of THE ARTIST, or the Affleck snub dropped in the ARGO team’s lap. BIRDMAN’s Keaton comeback angle is solid, but the film’s edges seem too jagged for AMPAS. This is why I’ll agree that as of now BOYHOOD has the best shot at winning. AMPAS voters seem to respond just as much to campaign narrative memes as they do emotional hooks on screen. Clearly, the meta-narrative of BOYHOOD won’t require much of a sell. As I believe Sasha pointed out on this very site, the unique nature of the production is manifested on screen in nearly every scene. That combined with the bare emotional impact of the thing make it a contender for the win in my mind. Even when middling films like CRASH, KING’S SPEECH, THE ARTIST or SLUMDOG win there is a sense of urgency and passion fueling them on. I’m seeing that in BOYHOOD’s corner, not so much for IMITATION GAME. But it’s early and if we know anything, it’s that nobody knows anything.
I don’t know why but I think American Sniper is going to sneak in and wow everyone. It seems like a movie that could completely capture the zeitgeist. I predict that Bradley Cooper, Clint and American Sniper are going to crash the party in a big way.
Exodus could be too big (scale, scope, techs, box office) to ignore in quite a few categories; perhaps Even BP.
Josh, I agree with you regarding Exodus being in the running. It is the dark horse in this race this year. Given its Xmas release date, if it catches fire with the public, it may peak at the right time for AMPAS voters. After all, they (HE) has tended to vote for old-style epics in the past (Gladiator, The English Patient, Titanic, The Last Emperor, Gandhi – just to name a few). And I’m not criticizing. I’m just pointing out that AMPAS likes to vote for these types of movies.
There is an error in Best Picture guru`s with Pete Hamond. He does not have the #3 and #7
Zero hope for ‘Gods & Kings’?
Hey folks, there’s a Gone Girl sequel out there if you want to know what happens next: Nick and Amy have moved to the UK to get away from (spoiler alert) murder, they still have marital troubles and 3 witty kids into the bargain. They’re going on a family vacation to Scotland even though they’re now living separately. What will happen next? Will she get all bezerk again, kill the kids, feed them to the Loch Ness monster and blame it on Nick?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUY23_cfI4o
“I’m a shortseller.”
“You sell shorts?”
Priceless!
I think the out of nowhere (at least that no one is really expecting to make best picture nom) is Exodus. It could be ho hum. Or it could be great.
Yesterday I saw Whiplash and i thought it is J.K.Simmons’ to lose…then this morning I saw Birdman and now I think it is between J.K. Simmons and Edward Norton…Tyler Perry?? Ugh, I hope not! Of course it is a possibility, but i hope not! Compared to some other possible nominees, his performance is nothing special…
I hope the nominees will get their nominations based on their performances, not just to make history or for some other non-performance related reason!
I haven’t seen Foxcatcher but I can’t imagine a more deserving winner for supporting actor than J.K. Simmons in “Whiplash.”
So many possibilities…and that is so NOT like recent Octobers. So clearly, I’m loving this season so far !
1. Nolan’s year ? (I have a hunch : yes!)
2. Will the late entries, mess with the already super crowded Best Actor race ? I guess they will, I mean just look at this list : Bradley Cooper, Jack O’Connell, Matthew McConaughey, Oscar Isaac, David Oyelowo, Mark Wahlberg, Christian Bale, Christoph Waltz, Kevin Costner, James Corden
3. Will the first female director of color make the top5 ? And will it be along another female director ? That would be two big ‘firsts’ right there.
4. Will long-time fan favourites (Rosamund Pike, Benedict Cumberbatch, Eddie Redmayne, Shailene Woodley etc.) receive their first nominations and rule the acting races ?
5. Is there an at-the-moment-COMPLETELY-unexpected BP nominee still to come ? Annie ? The Hobbit ?
FINALLY some excitement!
My impression of these early results are that it is still way too early and will be fun/interesting to see how close/far away the actual nominees/winners will be.