88th Academy Award Nominations

i saw a screener , its not out yet in france but i will go see it at the cinema when it does sometimes in late february which feels like 10 yrs from now

i meant the native american language sorry “native india lingo” that was a typo

He got the best and most vocal reaction of the whole announcements.

I think it deserved its editing nomination over its best score nomination.

I know! Alphabetical order is too tense! Go Sly!

Well, for me, being a movie about survival in extreme conditions, it couldnt be other way. The horrendous bear attack, the injuries, the indigenous attacks, the pain, the hunger that makes you eat anything, they’re there to make you feel as close to the experience as possible.. I saw it again yesterday and I was thinking that. Another director would’ve chosen to skip ugly parts and make it look prettier but then it’d be like a super hero movie which you forget the next day.
Tarantino on the other hand, that is violence with no genuine purpose for me. I liked the Kill Bills and Inglorious Bastards but got tired of so much violence that doesn’t add to the story. Just my opinion.

I don’t know. It becomes difficult, obviously…

I usually look at Yahoo during the school day, but this time I wanted to enjoy the nominations and experience the calling of the names. I liked it way better. I paused before most categories and thought about how the names would be read alphabetically. It was fun. Highlight: Stallone

I totally disagree with calling him that, and I didn’t like it when Jeff Wells called Spielberg that a few years ago, either. (talking about “Lincoln” with Sasha)

Turn the record over. By your bullcrap logic, Daddy’s Home is twice as good as Room and Brooklyn. Not so. I’m so over you; you’re even worse than that annoying Revenant fanboy, and you never say anything different or interesting. The love of box office to the exclusion of all else is just moronic. Get over it. Your movie was a retread, and How to Train Your Dragon 2 proves what the Academy thinks of retreads. I watched TFA and thought it was alright, nothing spectacular.

I disagree on Adapted Screenplay, Score, Song, Doc. I’m favoring Big Short, Hateful Eight/Carol, Lady Gaga, Amy. I need more info to decide on supporting actress; I feel like it’s between Kate and Rooney.

Yeah it’ll actually be interesting to see if that helps drive ratings.

Wasn’t comparing, actually. But I may have actually been denigrating the general viewing public in the US, just a bit. Brooklyn is a far better option than those films, but the public goes and buys shit instead. When Brooklyn went semi-wide (close to 1000 screens), it didn’t manage a very good per-screen average, which tells you John Q. Public couldn’t be bothered. But put Kevin Hart and Will Ferrell in a homophobic yuk fest? That they’ll buy.

EDIT: That per-screen average, for the record, was $4,671 per screen, otherwise known as the 12th best average that weekend. Spotlight expanded that weekend as well and only did slightly better ($4,914 per screen).

Yes and neither of them are hits, box office wise. Neither is Room. Neither is Joy for that matter.

Praise be

Love: 1. The Revenant 2. Brooklyn
Like a lot: 3. A Bridge of Spies 4. The Martian
Like: 5. Mad Max Fury Road 6. The Big Short
Dislike: Room, Spotlight

My predictions for thewinners:
Picture: The revenant
Director: Alejandro G. Innaritu
Actor: Leonardo Di Caprio
Actress: Brie Larson(alt. Saorise Ronan)
Supporting Actor: Sylvester Stallone
Supporting Actress: Kate Winslet
Original Screenplay: Spotlight
Adapted Screenplay: Room
Documentary Feature: The Look of silence
Documentary Short Subject: A Girl in the river: The price of forgiveness
Animated Short Film: Sanjay’s super team
Live Action Short Film: Everything will be Okay
Foreign language film: Son of Saul(Hungary)
Animated Feature: Inside out
Cinematography: Emmanuel Lubezki for The revenant
film editing: Hank Corwin: the big short
Production design: The Revenant
Costume design: The Revenant
Sound mixing: The Revenant
Sound editing: Star wars: The force awakens
Visual Effects: Star Wars: the force awakens
Original Score: John Williams: Star Wars: The Force Awakens
Original Song: Writings on the Wall from Spectre
Make-up: The Revenant

Love: 1. Room
Like a lot: 2. Spotlight 3. Bridge of Spies
Like: 4. Mad Max: Fury Road 5. Brooklyn 6. The Big Short
Can Tolerate 7. The Revenant 8. The Martian
Dislike: None of them!!!

Carol would have been my #1, Tangerine #2 and Inside Out right behind Room

Sure I value your opinion. Hopefully I didn’t write anything making it seem like I didn’t. Overall besides just the score, TFA was a surprising disappointment for me. But I do plan to see it again, in case it hits better on a second viewing, I am open to that possibility.

Minions is this year’s Lego Movie. Disrespected deluxe.

That’s just not true, Feli, many hated Crash upon arrival. It was very much a love it or hate it affair. Criticially, Ebert single-handedly saved it. But back then Premiere Magazine listed the 100 most critically acclaimed films of the year, and Crash came in 50something. EW also had a list, Crash was 30something. For the record, Brokeback was #1 on one poll, #2 on the other to documentary Grizzly Man.

The original Star Wars had 10 nominations back in 78. It also had 6 wins, which included a Special achievement Oscar. And the Original Star Wars was nominated for Best Picture and Best director. Yet it didn’t win best picture.

Sick Child 44 burn

Clearly you don’t understand my original point, and people like you just want to pounce on anyone they perceive to say something even slightly negative about Brooklyn without taking the time to put words into context. Here’s some context for you:

1. Room is my FAVORITE movie of all the nominated films, and it is by far the least seen of the bunch. I mentioned this in this exchange already but that must’ve slipped by you. Am I still equating quality with Box Office?

2. I am a regular on this site for going on 10 years now. Year after year someone comes on here complaining about how Oscar doesn’t reward populist filmmaking. I pointed out that 3 of the 8 movies nominated are mega hits. That’s a good percentage, especially if The Big Short can ride it’s buzz to near 100 million as well (not a guarantee but possible). If you look at other comments in this thread, I said this already. My point was basically to jump ahead of those who would like to shit on the Oscars for not nominating Star Wars.

But no, you didn’t understand anything being said because all you care about is that I said nobody saw Brooklyn. Guess what, that’s true. And no one saw my favorite, Room. Basically nobody saw Spotlight either, and that could win the prize (which will inevitably bring the aforementioned trolls out to complain about SW or MMFR not winning). If you like Brooklyn so much, you’re gonna have to accept that you’re part of a small club, just like those of us who like Room, or late 60’s Kinks music.

A bigger mystery is why was Scott in the running in the first place

I had a problem with the violence in The Revenant, which surprised me, because I generally have no problem with violence in movies. I’m a huge Tarantino fan, and there’s lots of violent movies among my favorites.

I thought about this a lot, and my problem with violence in The Revenant is that it’s showcased in a way where it seems like the main purpose is to make the audience flinch. Like the movie is saying, this is rough, too rough for you 21st century softies that want to look away. That bothered me because it only heightened my disconnect with the characters and stopped me from being immersed in the story.

But I can see how people might take it as a challenge and bestow a certain “cool factor” at being able to appreciate The Revenant and all the intense violence. To me, it was just a gimmick and one that made me feel slightly condescended to, at that. I’m definitely proof the film has haters.

I don’t think so. For the most part, in the Best Actress race, the “older, established actress giving a late career master class in acting” does not defeat the younger, newer stars. See —

Judi Dench in Philomena
Emmanuel Riva in Amour
Julie Christie in Away From Her
etc. etc.

There are exceptions (e.g. Meryl Streep) or where a performance is simply undeniable — e.g. Helen Mirren. But history does not favour Charlotte Rampling here.

BO does kind of matter re:Oscars. They’ve never rewarded a film that under-performed. The AMPAS have standards to keep!

So has ”Brooklyn”.

I would say Ronan or Blanchett are the potential locks for BAFTA.

”IT GIRL” doesn’t scream longevity career wise . No serious actor wants to be referred to as that.

I’m not subscribing to a “narrative”. That makes it sound like I am just leaping on some bandwagon for the fun of it. I’m just stating a fact that I couldn’t understand most of what Hardy said. I didn’t have so much trouble understanding Leo. But frankly I don’t think it mattered to an overall appreciation of the film that one get the nuance of every spoken line.

I’m not sure what you mean by the “native india lingo” (as opposed to the English “lingo” in the film”?). If you mean the native language, it was all subtitled, so why was that hard for you?

LOL! Thanks Cameron.

What is wrong with you?

Listen your argument on this matter means little to me. I don’t even understand what your original point is, only that you somehow link BO numbers to the quality of a film – which makes no sense to me.

He did and I’m not even mad at him for doing it. He’s allowed to coast-his body of work is incredible. But the Academy should be shamed for nominating him. And sorry, but same goes for EM getting a nom.

I enjoyed TR but your comment made me snort laugh. During the UK premiere, AIG was super obsessed with his scarf. It was hilarious. I didn’t know that was his thing but it definitely is his thang.

Spotlight is around 29 million right now, or 3.3 million tickets sold

Did THE WALK have A GIANT BEAR? No. Didn’t think so.

Seriously, it’s absurd that EX MACHINA and THE REVENANT would get in over this.

In that list of top nomination-getters, should mention that STAR WARS got 5 nods and THE DANISH GIRL got 4.

agreed, Ruffalo was not good

Disappointed that The Walk did not get Special Effects.

Wasn’t an argument, just making an observation and taking stock of this year’s nominees. 3 out of 8 are blockbusters, and there’s 2 others that will sell around 10 million tickets, so it’s actually not a bad year in terms of this “issue”.

Wide open race The Revenant, Spotlight and Big Short can win Best Picture. Complete movies.

Um – weren’t you predicting a huge nomination haul for Creed – and didn’t you say mark my words? A perfect nomination prediction AFTER the announcement….wow, what a psychic!

But, seriously, stats-wise, it’s also (highly) unlikely to win BD – see Chase Meridian’s stat! Editing is possible, though (unless there’s some other stat I’m not aware of), as are the techs you mention.

If you only mean for BP you may be right, but I wouldn’t call a movie that will likely win Best Director, Editing and a few other technical categories dead.

Mad Max with its 10 nominations today including Miller and without Scott is more alive than ever!

Avatar and LOTR:TROTK 🙂

Avatar in 2009 was nominated for BP and BD?

Exactly. Mad Max is the best reviewed movie of 2015.

Mad Max is not dead. Watch and see.

Ryan, it’s the least-seen Oscar nominee. Maybe EVER. Not even $400,000 domestic. No SAG. No BAFTA. Doesn’t that tell you this is a career achievement award grab?

“Who saw that movie?”

true movie-lovers
many smart people
not a lot of twats

please share that screenshot with us because I want to scrapbook it, so when I’m old I might get befuddled and think it really happened. thanks.

Thankful to Universal for releasing Crimson Peak and all but obviously thet’ve been lousy campaigning for it. Did they even sent screener of Crimson Peak? I thought if only they campaigned well for it like Steve Jobs or Jurassic World then it might get in at least Production and costume designs.

Steve Jobs couldn’t even make Sorkin in Screenplay. Then again, I don’t think he deserves it anyway.

I don’t think I wrote that many 🙂

Here we go again. Box office means nothing when it comes to Oscar nominations. And it means absolutely nothing when it comes to the quality of motion pictures. “Hot Tub Time Machine” made a gazillion dollars upon release. And received no Oscar nominations. Well, duh. This box office argument should just be thrown out the window once and for all.

Will Ridley Scott’s Oscar ”snub”’ lead to a sympathy DGA win? .After the Oscars snubbed Ben Affleck for directing ”Argo,” he won the DGA. After the Oscars snubbed Spielberg for directing ”The Color Purple,” he won the DGA.

Wow! 🙂

I never peek online first – here, in Romania, they’re on at 3.30 p.m., and I’m usually pretty restless the night before, so I fall asleep very late (though, by my standards, not really) and I get up just minutes before they announce the nominations.

It’s so limited, though. It’s never been within 60 miles of me. So you don’t need to denigrate it by comparing it to stupid films.

I did. In a dazzling feat of self-control, I taught until three, then watched the nominations at home. For once I didn’t peek online first.

:))

“I don’t care about what you say.”

You should start acting like it. If you don’t care, then don’t reply to my comments! Or do, but express your dissatisfaction the right way (whatever you think that is), not by trying to argue about things you don’t actually care about! If you think I’m wrong 100%, then why bother trying to convince me of it? Or are you afraid others will believe me, and you’re trying to convince them not to? Doesn’t that all seem like a bit of a thankless task?…

I don’t argue about stats. I don’t care about what you say. I enjoy what I enjoy and, in my opinion, you are always wrong.

Why, because you say so?

Aha – so you admit it’s a matter of opinion whether a movie (such as The Revenant) has a legitimately nominate-able screenplay or not…

More people paid money to see Black Or White with Kevin Costner. Is that movie a big hit? Have you even fucking heard of that movie?

Right, loads. What do you call the 15 million people who watched Kingsman then? You do realize 99 OTHER MOVIES had more eyeballs than Brooklyn and that 2.6 million tickets is not a large number in terms of box office success, right?

“1. Are any of us getting any work done today?”

🙂 Nope…

2.6 million people, oooh that’s loads. Sorry I meant to say ‘ so I imagine loads of people have seen it’

Nobody’s forcing you to take stats seriously. (Unless you start asking for explanations yourself.) But why do you care if the rest of us do, and talk about it? I don’t get it. How does it affect your season? Just skip any post that includes stats!

And, for that matter, why are you following Awards Daily, the site run by stats-wiz Sasha Stone, and which features stuff like Statsgasm and Simulated Ballots and so on?!… I’m not saying: leave! I have nothing against you. But don’t make it LESS fun for us stats-people by shitting all over our way of enjoying the Oscar season, OK? It’s very easy to do that.

“Can you picture members of the writing branch of the Academy taking all those things into consideration, doing their job, before voting?!”

That’s exactly what I said. That they didn’t. I thought that was pretty clear.

“but with 12 nominations and the specifics of the writing in this case I don’t think missing the screenplay nomination means the film is not passionately liked and a frontrunner to win BIG on Oscar night”

I think that’s exactly what it means… (Not just based on this snub, of course, but the SAG snub, the other screenplay snubs and the AFI top 10 snub – and similar snubs from other critics and critics’ groups top 10 lists. The Academy may not be critics, but their tastes aren’t THAT different, and the stats completely support this theory. Both Birdman and The King’s Speech were also critics’ darlings the year they won. Neither of them missed any of those mentions. Same goes for any other winner for at least the past 9-10 years, basically…)

“The film is a work developed in extreme conditions working on the “writing” at a visual cinematic level and at an acting so profoundly that in my opinion there is a huge grey area in defining the merits or demerits of the screenplay itself.”

The Artist had far less of a screenplay and it got nominated…

I’m tired of this lazy boring narrative that tries to picture every single Academy member as a stupid superficial voting moron.
The Revenant is only in part an adaptation of Michael Punke’s novel (the Author is working for the government and cannot talk about the adaptation and the film). This story anyway is based on true facts and real people, on an expedition that really took place. The film is a work developed in extreme conditions working on the “writing” at such a visual/cinematic/acting level that, in my opinion, there is a huge grey area in defining the merits or demerits of the screenplay itself. Can you picture members of the writing branch of the Academy taking all those things into consideration, doing their job, before voting?! Maybe the film didn’t get the screenplay nom because many didn’t find it worthy of their vote, but with 12 nominations and the specifics of the writing in this case I don’t think missing the screenplay nomination means the film is not passionately liked and a frontrunner to win BIG on Oscar night

Two thoughts:
1. Are any of us getting any work done today?
2. When was the last time the AD community was rooting for the stodgy, traditional, Oscar-bait film? Just the fact that we have Mad Max, Revenant, and Room to root for is pretty dang cool.

I love and want to talk about movies, cinema, passion, actors, oscars… I want to be passionately wrong about a movie I love, or one that I hate. I want to read about what people think about a film. I DON’T like that every conversation that should be about movies recognised or overlooked during the awards season becomes just a statistic boring nonsense, because stats applied to the perception and the momentum in regards of films seems to reach just a new level of crap every new season!

i i really don’t get that narrative going on about them not being understandable , the only thing that was hard for me was the native india lingo

If there was only Spotlight, it could have won. If there was only The Big Short, it could have won. The problem for both is that they’ll end up cancelling each other. An easy victory for The Revenant on the preferential ballot. That’s what I told Sasha Stone as well… I am not sure that she has a response to that.

Hmm, I’m not sure I get your point. Maybe I am misunderstanding.

Obviously since they did not vote for The Rev for screenplay, there is some reason, especially as you say when it got so many other noms. The reason is, I assume, that it was not seen as being such a screenplay-based movie, at least compared to the other contenders in the field.

And yes, I would say that things like costume, production design, etc. would clearly be perceived as more essential to what The Rev is than it’s very spare screenplay.

Also, it’s listed as one of the top snubs here:

http://www.goldderby.com/news/11462/oscars-nominations-shocking-snubs-ridley-scott-idris-elba-carol-13579086.html

ALL of those movies I mentioned had support across all (or pretty much all) of the branches. Didn’t help them…

You think McCarthy or McKay CAN’T win BD? Where have you been the past 80+ years of Oscar?! Didn’t Hazanavicius win? Didn’t Hooper? (Besides, why do they have to? A split can easily happen, like with Gravity/12 Years, and other such examples.) You have no case… 🙂 Only intuition. I get it, it’s fine – if you’re right, you’ll laugh at me and my stats later! But please don’t try to tell me the stats (or ‘history’, if you prefer to call it that) are on your side – that’s just obviously not the case…

Congrats on your predictions! By the way, whoever planned the release dates is a genius. Going wide last Friday allowed it to avoid the holiday crush and primed it for the Golden Globes. And now DiCaprio’s in London for its premiere over there. Between the Globe wins, the box office and the Oscar nominations today, ”The Revenant’s” really on a roll.

“I’d suggest that it was not nominated, not because it didn’t have a good screenplay, but because the screenplay was of secondary importance to the movie and the overall artistic vision.”

And they thought of that when completing their ballots… ‘Yes… The Revenant… I’ll nominate it for every tech imaginable, because its production design, costume design, etc. are all so essential to its artistic vision… but… nah, I won’t nominate the screenplay. THAT isn’t essential…’ 🙂 They voted for 5 other categories in the time it would have taken them to think of all that (en masse, mind you)…

Interesting. I didn’t realize that stat about SAG/WGA.

:)) I think it shows they HAD seen it… (That’s probably what you meant.)

And it’s always reflected in the stats. The guild stats, the nomination stats. All decided by (or also by) Oscar voters.

And Academy can be trusted more ? Yeah right.

Also – Sasha Stone, before the WGA:

“Then, depending on how things go, the Oscar Adapted category might look like:

The Big Short, Adam McKay
The Martian, Drew Godard
Steve Jobs, Aaron Sorkin
The Revenant, Mark L. Smith, Alejandro González Iñárritu
Brooklyn, Nick Hornby”

So it WAS in the discussion and didn’t get in.

I didn’t win the Derby. I only got 74% BUT the most important prediction that I made and which I am mostly proud of was this. I predicted The Revenant for the exact same 12 Oscar Nominations that it got and I am so happy now. It literally made my day and now I can say with a piece of mind that it will win the BIG 5 on Oscar night.. BTW I love this website. It is so Awesome. Check it out guys!

http://www.revenantmovie.com/awards/mobile

I am salivating at the prospects… 🙂

MMFR IS (way more) dead.

Yes, you have to look at the noms a film wasn’t expected to get. The Revenant was never really a strong contender for a screenplay award so it is not a big shock that it didn’t get that one nom. The fact that Hardy was nommed suggests to me that there is a lot of passion for the film. Damn, you couldn’t understand 90% of what he said, and he still got nommed.

Just saw The Revenant and although I was dreading it as an unpleasant and dreary experience, I was actually very impressed and found it a very powerful piece of filmmaking. I was totally wrapped up in the story.

I can certainly see why it wouldn’t be some people’s cup of tea, and they might hate it because it is grim, but I personally would rather see it win BP than that the big prize go to a respectable but essentially uninspiring piece of non-cinema like Spotlight.

At least The Revenant is a cinematic expression of a particular vision by Inarritu, Lubezki and the other people involved. I think it is completely irrelevant to The Rev’s chances that it wasn’t nominated for Screenplay — I’d suggest that it was not nominated, not because it didn’t have a good screenplay, but because the screenplay was of secondary importance to the movie and the overall artistic vision.

Given that Carol wasn’t nominated, I’d love to see BP go to MMFR or The Revenant, both of which are stirring cinematic visions. If the Academy wants to pick a more conventional film, please make it be Brooklyn rather than Spotlight. At least Brooklyn had a lush, swooning, romantic feel to it — Spotlight had no feel to it at all.

Just my opinions!!

I’m pretty tired of people using the stats that suit them to make their argument. Argo couldn’t win without best director, Birdman couldn’t win without editing, and now Revenant can’t win without SAG.

There are no rules, only patterns.

Then we get other lame arguments like box office, RT ratings, divisiveness, darkness of a film etc.

AMPAS vote for what they like most at the time. It’s as simple as that.

I think it’s a 3 horse race at this point- Revenant, Spotlight, Big Short. Revenant getting a lot of buzz & the 12 noms should give it a boost. It got 2-3 more noms that I thought it would, including Hardy, which shows it’s pretty strong.

PGA and DGA will be very helpful clues as always but it still feels like a hard thing to call

Compare that to the evidence FOR The Revenant: the Globes, which have the poorest record of all major precursors of predicting BP, and the 12 noms (but without screenplay, somehow, still). That’s EXTREMELY poor evidence. Barely evidence at all…

Couldn’t agree more. I doubt many Oscar voters know the stats. They vote what they like.

The Globes have, like, by far the worst record of any major BP award at predicting the Oscar… (At least in the last 10 years or so.) And this despite having two categories…

Thanks! Missed it… Too much going on today (not just with the Oscars) and I forgot – maybe it’ll be on Youtube…

I have read many reviews and reactions to ‘Brooklyn’ and phrases like ‘lovely movie’, ‘they don’t make them like that anymore’ and I have lost count of the number of twitter reactions from viewers saying they ‘cried for most of the film’, and a good majority of those people said it was an uncontrollable cathartic release. Now, bear in mind that Saoirse would be unknown to the vast majority of these people and the story nice but basic, why did these people have the response they had? My opinion is it all boils down to the special talent Saoirse is – she got those people to feel what she was feeling. It is a higher form of acting calibre, it is truth. If talent is a measure of how far she goes, she’ll reach the stars.

I think Miller has a very solid shot at Best Director, but I would have to radically revise upward my opinion of the Academy’s taste if MM:FR won BP.

It would be an awful choice with two visionaries competing against him.

Ronan has bright future ahead and she specified that her next project is a comedy.

Amazing, huh? When we use words like that to describe Tom Hardy’s performance in The Revenant, what words to we have left to describe something truly amazing? Competent, sure. Watchable, why not. Perfectly fine, yeah I’ll go with that. But amazing? Maybe it’s “amazing” that he was able to do anything interesting at all with the one-note characterization he was given to play, but I challenge you to watch Bronson or Locke and see him at his best, with a full range to play with, and then tell me that his role in The Revenant will end up being anything more than a minor footnote in the man’s career.

Dobbs is a pretty good call, I’ll give you that. Not really trying to hate on Hardy, one of my favorite working actors, but I don’t think he was given a whole hell of a lot to play with in this movie (or Mad Max, for that matter). Legend, on the other hand, was a showcase.

This. It would completely fix the “no diversity” and “no blockbusters” issue that we complain about time and time again. Straight Outta Compton, Creed, or Star Wars would probably have a spot then.

You may be right.

I wish the AD crew could become honorary members of the Academy and fix their clusterfuck of voting for boring typical things

Lol nah ACE snub is one of the biggest snub.

Hardy got a “pleased to meecha” nomination. He’ll be winning in the future for something else.

True, “time” has a way of separating the wheat from the chaff. Critics and particularly awards voters don’t have benefit of hind-site and perspective that time gives, so they are trying to predict the future, sometimes with not so good results. Hence the “what were they thinking” response regarding some past picks and snubs.

Hardy was great in The Revenant. He brought some good shadings to the character including a kind of Fred C. Dobbs quality and that’s okay by me.

You are not being objetive. Tom Hardy was amazing in this movie. And trust me I’m not near a stan.

Critics can’t always be trusted to understand what will be more respected in the future than the present. I think The Revenant is one of those films they just weren’t too sure about like Heat and The Shining in their time and many more as well. Some past reviews of films now considered classics are laughable.

Everyone loves and is rooting for Stallone. His standing ovation at the Globes proved that too.

I never trust AFI. They always have films on there that I go, “What the F….?”

Yay. I really hope so

Some snubs are bigger than others. Screenplay SAG are much bigger snubs than BAFTA or ACE snubs.

thank GOD no Helen Mirren

Michael B. Jordan, Ryan Coogler, and the cinematography were all on my simulated Oscar ballot in addition to Sly. It’s really sad on how much the Academy dropped the ball with this great movie.

people put SO MUCH STOCK in past stats they get broken all the time.

lol

They have left out “The Departed” in 2006. I think that was US film and just snubbed it which shows the AFI has a taste. The Revenant I believe is a US film, but they don’t believe it belongs in their list of top ten US films. They think even TFA is better than TR. I don’t if I will go that far but it certainly isn’t a film that should be nominated for BP let alone win it.

🙁

If guild snubs are killing movies this year then none of these survive except TBS.

Agreed, the AD folks are a great bunch.

Screenplay never was expected to happen

The only time where a behemoth was stopped from winning Best Picture was 1998 when Shakespeare in Love won over Saving Private’s Ryan. And I am sorry, but Spotlight is not as ambitious as Shakespeare in Love..

Finally, Leo will join the elite company of Great Actors who win Best Actor Oscars in Best Picture Films – hello Jack Nicholson, nice to meet you!!!

If you want to make this about ego, then, trust me, you’ve come to the wrong place.

Well, it could win BD (and I think it WILL, if it DOES win BP), but, yeah, it’s most likely winning editing too, I agree.

No, Leo is the only “in the bag” nominee right now. Miller is strong but people who vote for The Revenant will vote for Inarritu and right now that film is stronger overall. I see Miller winning if The Revenant weakens in BP because both Spotlight and The Big Short (the other ‘consensus’ picks) aren’t as tied to their directors as The Revenant is. Long way to go between now and the Oscars with PGA and DGA to come yet.

I liked the music. But the acting, writing, none of that clicked with me. Would’ve loved for Creed to have gotten more recognition. But that’s just the way it is.

It doesnt matter that TR do not have SAG ensemble nod. First screenings of this film were on december 1st when at least half of voters were done.

I loved Straight Out of Compton. That film was one of the best of the year. Now, Jennifer Lawrence, I completely agree about her mediocre acting. Sadly, most of these award shows are a popularity contest.

Best reply chain to read so far. Man, I do waste a lot of time reading comments on Oscar morning but replies like this make it fun!

The best: Stallone getting nominated and best reactions (it seems) from average people on social media, the awful, awful “See you again” not getting nominated, Carol getting snubbed for picture and director (a boring and cold film) and The Big Short getting picture, directing and writing nominations (Pitt’s replaced Clooney as the most liked actor behind the camera), and Nick Hornby getting nominated and last- Star Wars: TFA only getting technical nominations (thus falling short both awardwise AND monitory-wise well under Avatar’s achievement, bringing shame to all fanboyz)

The worst: Lawrence getting nominated yet again for a mediocre performance, Scott being snubbed, Creed being shut out except for Stallone, Gaga’s nomination and Room’s director getting nominated.

The controversy : #Oscarsowhite. A campaign so out of focus that it only focuses on the end-station (Oscar nominations) and not the machine that only produces mediocre films like Straight outta Compton. The problem is in who gets cast, what roles are written and the will to take risk that produces a film like Room (5.2 million at the box office).

If nothing else this years race is the most execiting and fluid in the past few years.

I really wish I could lay credit to that, or even let others assume it was mine. But I can’t. That’s stroke of wordplay genius belongs to Woody Allen in “What’s Up Tiger Lilly?”

And… noted!

Nice observation! Hadn’t thought of that…

I’m sorry, but the biggest pretentious boring film does belong to Birdman, directed by Iñarritu. . . . Hey wait a minute.

They nominated Tom Hardy for making an angry face the entire time. They REALLY like this movie.

I agree with the ranking, but, regardless, critics’ opinions aren’t facts either.

I just realized EXACTLY how it’s all going to play out – and even as soon as Critic’s Choice:

The Revenant will win 5 (FIVE) Oscars – The Big 5 and the most prestigious 5:

Best Picture, Best Director, Best Actor, Best Cinematography and Best Film Editing

Mad Max: Fury Road will win 4 Oscars – Best Production Design, Best Costumes, Best Makeup and Hairstyle and Best Sound Mixing

Star Wars: The Force Awakens will win 2 Oscars – Best Visual Effects and Best Sound Editing..

Spotlight will win 1 Oscar for Best Original Screenplay. The Big Short will win 1 Oscar for Best Adapted Screenplay.

Room will win 1 Oscar for Best Actress

Carol will win 1 Oscar for Best Supporting Actress

Finally, Creed will win 1 Oscar for Best Supporting Actor.

Inside Out will win 1 Oscar for Best Animated Feature.

That’s it. It already has played in my head. This race is over!

Relax – you’re safe! The Revenant isn’t winning BP. (perhaps BD, though)

That’s true about the SAG. Good point.

Yeah.

We’re not drinking any MM kool-aid, shit, just check the Metacritic stats as fact of the superior film:

Mad Max: Fury Road – 89
The Revenant – 77

even Steve Jobs got – 82

I agree. That’s the problem, isn’t it? When someone gets rewarded for something satisfactory and then they do something really incredible, does the academy reward them again? If it was the other way around: Revenant first and then Birdman, the outcome would be obvious.

The most hate. It shoots from my eyes like lightning bolts piercing your dead soul.

Haha ouch… I mean, I liked Steve Jobs more than most and thought Sorkin wrote a bang-up script even if it was his m.o.

I promise you it won’t! (And not just because of the screenplay thing.)

Stallone is in huge danger, given he competes with Legend+Mad Max+The Revenant’s Tom Hardy.

Stallone has only Creed, to his credit, on 2015. It’ll depend if they consider the Globe and the Oscar nom, enough recognition.

Only Room, Spotlight, The Martian and Mad Max made it from my top 20 of the year (Room was the only one in my top 10, FYI). Bridge Of Spies is my number 21. Big Short is 27. Revenant is 33. Brooklyn is 35.

Please God, don’t let The Revenant win. What a boring, pretentious film.

Miller, without Scott in his way, has it in the bag.

Should we pay attention to the fact, that Lady Gaga is an Oscar nominee, when Madonna is still waiting?

And it’s not like if Madonna shouldn’t have been nom’d before – Evita’s performance aside – considering her songs for Austin Powers: The Spy who Shagged Me or A League of their Own, just to name a couple of themes that got to the Globes and didn’t translate to Oscar noms…

Even the Academy is using Carol still at the thumbnail to click on the 8 BP trailers video

It’s The Revenant – Miller – Leo – Brie – Hardy – Vikander – Spotlight – Big Short

almost done deal. Really.

Hardy and Vikander were aiming even to double noms (Hardy for Legend, and he has the surplus of Fury Road), Vikander has been snubbed for Ex Machina, which did earn a surprising VFX nom, and a not surprising Original Screenplay one, that meaning, the voters know she had a hell of a year.

I know it’s difficult to picture Sly not winning after the standing ovation at the Globes… but Hardy was probably the most dangerous competition, specially if getting the nom for a Best Picture frontrunner… I’ve seen both performances and would give it to Sly, but in a really narrow margin… unless they consider it a Life-Achievement vote, they’ll probably pick Hardy, as recognition for his body of work in 2015.

Huh, on bet365 you can still bet on Carol to win BP. Weird as they updated everything after today announcement.
Maybe they know something we don’t 😉

If the rousing standing ovations that DiCaprio and Stallone got at the Golden Globes are ANY indication of their support in Hollywood, they’re each winning the Oscar by a landslide.

Wrong. The Danish Girl (extreme bait), Brooklyn (old fashioned straight romance) and Room (tearjerker) are tailor made for Academy tastes. Not Carol (directed in a subtle way by auteur director)

Larson just arrived in OZ now, filming for a few months, so she won’t be around to campaign much. That leaves just Abrahamson & producers to campaign. They don’t even have Tremblay nominated to help….

Really? The Thumbnail for the BP nominees video is a still from CAROL? This is rich.

I think Rylance is one of those subtler performances that doesn’t get awarded here. The Academy loves when you show your work, the big moments, the teary monologues. Stallone already has his Oscar reel set up with that scene in the Locker room.

Exactly. I just making a point that an actor can win without having a BD or BP. Some are assuming Larson is a lock because she won GG and ”Room” has BD & BP. Phase 2 is different. A lot will depend on BO, etc.

The Revenant is taking Best Picture. The sooner we all accept it, the less painful it is going to be.

She won Cannes.

I see that a lot of people seem to underestimate Rylance. Only he and Bale got all the noms, incl GG, Baftas, SAG and Oscars. I personally think it would be tough for Stallone to beat them.

Hater deluxe.

wtf?

It was just the AMPAS giving an ‘up-and-coming’ some recognition

This year, even with SAG nothing is certain

And Alicia Vikander won everything for Ex Machina and is not even nominated for this film. If they really want to give Oscar to her this wouldn’t happen. The Danish Girl is simply a weak movie. Carol has bigger respect.

They can be pretty oblivious to everyone else’s opinion. Far from Heaven won nothing. The Color Purple tied the record for coming up empty-handed. I just have a hunch that Alicia Vikander will get a boost from being in an apparantly better-liked movie and her more deserving performance in Ex Machina

Mara has won nothing not even critic awards up to now. Only thing going for her is Harvey Weinstein.

(Wow, reading the comments section for this article felt a bit like Achilles and the Tortoise, for a while. Every time I, finally, got to the last one, there were a bunch of new ones…)

It looks as though that poster (don’t remember who it was) was right – the Carol snub isn’t generating as much of a reaction as a Fury Road snub (BP+BD) probably would have. I guess people expected the former to happen more than I thought…

Also, I just checked, and I got 34/43 (79%) right in the Oscar predictions contest here (main categories – I didn’t enter the other one), which, again, isn’t too bad for my usual standards as far as nominations go… Original Screenplay and Supporting Actor are the only categories where I got more than 1 nominee wrong (2 for each), and I’m pretty sure I didn’t include Ruffalo, at least partially, as “insurance” for Spotlight’s final tally…

5 too many

Giving award to her would be a good comfort for BP and BD snub. I’m an optimist.

I”m not so sure about Rooney losing this. The Academy is going to take hell for snubbing Carol in BP and they might want to try and make up for it somewhere. Rooney Mara is the most likely spot for them to do that.

Yes, it’s not at all clear. Rooney would have my vote. At least she’s got a fighting chance but it just feels like they’re not through giving Carol the shaft.

Mara will win, IMO.

🙂 You don’t get to decide when SAG is a lost cause. There’s no real evidence of that. It still got 13/20 Oscar nominees for acting right. That’s about what they get on a bad year. So no reason to assume this was a particularly anomalous year. If The Revenant was so strong with the actors, it would have gotten in for Ensemble as well. No reason to think otherwise.

And this SAG thing is just ONE of the reasons it’s not winning BP, of course…

Or:

Spotlight / Tom McCarthy
The Big Short / Alejandro G. Inarritu

WB should fire its top management and hire me. I knew that whale movie would be turd by looking at the poster.

Rooney has a good chance, seriously. More than other four. She needs SAG or BAFTA win.

Do we have confirmation of this? I believe you, actually (and I definitely WANT to believe you) – but I’d like a link with evidence, too, to be sure.

Someone on Twitter said their Mad Max screener came after 90% of other
screeners, despite it being a May release, and it was in a plain black
DVD jewel case.

It’s crazy to describe a big budget movie as ‘the little train that could’ but there’s been so little campaigning – Theron has been AWOL, Hardy has only done Revenant stuff, Miller was belatedly dragged to LA about a week ago – that it really did get in on passion. Creed didn’t get much of a helping hand either. Clearly WB were expecting In The Heart of The Sea to be its Oscar horse.

At this point my predictions:
Picture: Spotlight (that editing nomination is very telling)
Actor: DiCaprio
Actress: Rampling (I’ve been predicting her for awhile, so why stop now?)
S. Actor: Stallone
S. Actress: Vikander (the overall Carol snubbing will extend to Rooney Mara, sad to say)
Director: Miller
O. Screenplay: Spotlight
A. Screenplay: The Big Short
Foreign: Son of Saul
Animated: Inside Out
Documentary: The Look of Silence

One thing that’s weird. I’m predicting Spotlight to win only two awards total. If that’s true, it’ll be a real nail-biter all the way to the Best Picture announcement. With all the tech awards they’re going to rake in, both Mad Max and The Revenant are going to look like they’re in a much better position than Spotlight — or The Big Short, for that matter, if it pushes through. God, I hope it doesn’t

OK – last year I had 4-5, the two years before that 3-4 each time, and 4-5 for 2011 and 2010. I don’t have lists before that. So, yeah, it’s still the lowest (since it’s a clear 3, not 3-4), but not by as much as I thought it might be…

People go in about its Oscar baity or how small it is, but its a really lovely movie. Its gonna get a lot of hate for not being Carol.

I guess that’s pretty low for what I usually have… Not sure – I need to check previous years.

John Williams was phoning this one in.

Creed is way better than the Revenant. I don’t know why they love The Revenant so much.

I meant it in favour of MM but ok 🙁

Not true… CREED screeners went out the 2nd week of December. FURY ROAD screeners went out the second week of November.

Exactly – more options and ways to NOT give it to the action/effects flick…

How are you not tired of repeating the same thing every hour?

Spotlight is this year’s Boyhood, 6 nominations 1 win.

Meryl nom/won her awards without a BP, etc. Could happen for Lawrence this year. Who knows?

Rampling & Ronan were the only actresses to receive applause whilst their noms were read out.

It will not happen. No point thinking about it.

Watch Mad Max win this thing in February. I think we have been underestimating Mad Max, probably this is the industry #1 film of 2015 but we are blind to see it because of genre bias.

I heard WB sort of rushed screeners out at the last minute, because they never saw Mad Max as an awards contender. They were focused for a long time on Black Mass.

No it’s on their site. And I provided a Screenshot- twice. I think it was a badly timed error from the webmaster. Also I am on Goldderby and other posters confirmed they went to the site and saw it.

Yeah, I knew Black Mass had no chance when it didn’t even score a makeup nomination.

WB didn’t sent screeners of Fury Road?

Hence, an unconditional support for the technical aspects of Mad Max would be even more promising. Especially when you have another groundbreaking film like The Revenant in contention for those categories.

That’s true. Also the extreme love from critics helped this film a lot. Critics named it the Best film of the year and Best reviewed film of 2015.

Will that be a video? Any idea where I could watch that? (Either live, or afterwards.) I really respect Karger as a prognosticator.

The Ridley Scott snub certainly helps… Miller’s much more viable now as a Best Director winner, helping the film’s cause in Picture.

Still don’t think it goes that way, but if there’s a PGA surprise, I’m on board.

So, basically, the globe winners, Spotlight because it’s the favorite and Room because it overperformed and Jobs didn’t get nominated? Doesn’t it seem to you like you’re placing a bit too much importance on events in the last 5 days alone? (And, I don’t know… ignoring other important clues… just saying…)

There must have been lots of vote splitting with this ensemble. Still, for 2 to make it in…

This is the first year that no TWC film has been nominated for BP since the it was expanded. He should blame QT for making a shit movie. At least “Carol” is the most acclaimed of 2015 and has been nominated else where.

I mean, Gravity would have pulled it off if it wasn’t for 12YS’s narrative. Although Gravity had Bullock.

This is the AMPAS, not Globes. You can’t assume she’s a ”lock” based on a BD nom or because she won a GG (19 votes needed to win). Rampling has shaken things up now. She was snubbed by everyone except AMPAS. Majority of voters are OAPs who will likely vote in her favor! As Kris Tapley says: ”Phase 2 is a different ball game”.

It is a big big IF. I do not have the stats on how many for each branch otherwise i would have tried calculating.

Really? Wasn’t it bad enough that the most popular film in the history of American movies got jobbed with 5 usual suspect nominations? You wanted LESS? That’s just warped.

Five out of my seven favourite films have made the Oscar BP list: MM: FR, “Room”, Spotlight”, TBS and BOS. Only my number 1, “Inside Out” and number 6, Ex-Machina missed out. I am chuffed with this Oscar BP list. I am so happy Abrahamson got BD nom and QT was snubbed but very disappointed with Elba’s omission. Oscar has a white problem and Hollywood in general but while Hollywood is trying to appeal to large demographics Oscar seems to be sadly stuck in the past. I wonder if Rock will make a joke about being the only black person there and he’s there only as a jester.

Definitely not because of that, if it does, somehow…

I think it can. The Actors are less than 1,300 of more than 6,000 members so it is possible.

Lawrence is a big surprise since she was left off SAG and no one has won Best Actress Oscar without that. Maybe the Academy is intending to turn her into the next Meryl, nominate her for anything.

Cate Blanchett also.

Unlikely, as there are so many actors.

Its gonna explode this weekend

Larsen is locked. Room got a best director nod.

I’m curious. If Mad Max wins 90% of the techs it’s nominated for + Director, can it win Picture without broad support from the actors’ branch?

I liked him. He was douchy enough.

I think it was just a badly timed joke… (Given how much people genuinely care about this.)

Best Song category always sucks

Check out his great movie “It’s Such a Beautiful Day,” which I think is still streaming on Netflix.

BA: Definitely DiCaprio.
BA : It could be any of the 5 nominees.
Best Supporting Actress: I think it will be Vikander.

Shutout sounds very plausible.

He had the best year ever!! All 4 of his films made it into my top 10 favorites.

Obviously, there’s original stuff in the score. Quite a bit… (And, to my mind, quite good, though, admittedly, in a year as strong as this one for scores, I could have lived with the snub.)

I think it will go like this
Picture-revenant
Director-Miller
Actor-Leo
Actress-Brie
SUP actor-Sly
Sup actress-Kate

Yes, in many ways the MM: FR has won. And for the first time in a long time Academy made BAFTA selection look lame by comparison.

no

lol this is sad

It could be any of 5. True re: Lawrence. I think Rampling could take it. Snubbed by everyone except AMPAS; a hit with it’s large OAP voters.

Whew, Mad Max got in for Best Pic and Director. Now I can relax lol. The odds are against them winning, I always knew that; the nominations would be the real reward.

I don’t, mainly because Inarritu’s film already won last year and now it faces strong competition from TBS and Spotlight, so I would be really surprise. The other thing is that it hasn’t got SAG Ensemble, whilst the two other has and the third thing – it’s also a surprise to me how loved Spotlight is by the Academy (Supporting Actor/Actress and Best Editing noms). The Revenant also, but the odds are against it.

Those are good points Jeremy. I think I feel like Spotlight has this too. Maybe the only one that could beat it is The Big Short.

Wow, those were way off!…

Great prediction!

:)) OK, it did take me about 10 seconds…
Good one!

and score…and I liked TFA and can’t wait for the next one. But Best Editing is a fuckin’ laugh.

Agreed 🙂 LOL

I woulnd’t go that far. I think the editing was great. Oscar worthy? Not sure.

Me too. Loved TFA. It was technically great in most ways. But not top 5 for editing.

Agreed.

Oh JR- I only want to fuck you dear. You know that. Now let’s not let everyone know about our relationship right away.

Maybe a last minute surge for Room because people were scared it wouldn’t get in, and the sense that Carol was safe for BP? That doesn’t really explain BD though …

I can’t wrap my head around how a talent and a person like Bryan Cranston gets his firs Oscar nomination for a film phony and abysmal as “Trumbo.”

Anomalisa and 45 Years. Kidding. Wishful thinking 🙂 Scroll up, it’s at the bottom of the list.

So, I haven’t counted yet. What films have the most nominations?

All good then 🙂

Titanic was a juggernaut and by far the highest grossing film ever at the time. If “The Revenant does as well in the box office then it’s got a good chance.

Oh gosh, now the TFA stan appears and starts his broken record again.

Helps to be likable

Thank you!…

Not so much since it wasnt expected + Titanic won without screenplay

Not seeing it on their site or anywhere else.

I think BA goes to the veteran meaning Rampling. I thought the vet would be Mirren but she was thankfully left off.

Though I’m so cynical right now I halfway believe AMPAS will give Lawrence her second.

Not on the Oscar site I’m seeing.

Wow, just realized Brad Pitt has been nominated for best picture 3 times, won once. He was also listed as a producer on both Tree of Life and Departed but for whatever reason he didn’t get listed as a name for the nomination. So he could be at 5 nominations for best picture already. Also executive produced Selma.

Sounds very reasonable.

Thanks for tallying!

Hey Academy, you nominated Hardy for the wrong film! Fix this! Ditto Vikander!

So, is the missing screenplay nomination for The Revenant worrying in terms of Best Picture?

That Best Animated Feature lineup is so fuckin awesome! Overall, i think these were great noms but i just want to say: What a day, what a lovely day!

Relax buddy!

Good day to be Steve Golin. Double nominee for Best Picture and both films are in the top 4 to take home the prize. I wonder how he will go about campaigning for these. He was not part of the Birdman Producer team, so he has no Oscars yet.

I’m not sure about Lawrence but between Blanchett, Larson, Ronan and Rampling it looks like the strongest list of acting nominees in some time.

its actually a GREAT movie

– The American Film Institute Top Ten Films of the year
– Los Angeles Film Critics – Best Film and Best Screenplay-
Eight nominations from the BFCA – including Best Film, Best Director,
Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress, Best Screenplay, Best
Score.
– 3 Golden Globe Award nominations for Best Motion Picture – Drama, Best Director, and Best Screenplay
– Nominated for five Independent Spirit Awards, including Best Feature, Best Director, Best Screenplay
– New York Film Critics Online – Best Picture, Best Director, Best Screenplay and Best Ensemble cast

#1 on these critics’ Top 10 lists
– Christopher Orr, The Atlantic
– Chris Nashawaty, Entertainment Weekly
– Kate Erbland, Indiewire
– Peter Travers, Rolling Stone
– Stephanie Zacharek, Time
– Ann Hornaday, Washington Post
– Rex Reed, New York Observer (who took time out from lazily eating ass to do something right for once)

I just realized once again, all 20 acting nominees are white. Whoops AMPAS!!

Yes. Now more and more theaters offer films in their original versions but we’re still far from countries like Sweden or the Netherlands.

Luckily, a cinema in my town has an original-version screening on Tuesday nights. This is how I saw Carol this Tuesday.

So, I’m very happy for Mad Max: Fury Road, The Martian, and The Revenant. I really thought Straight Outta Compton was gonna get in for Best Picture. It had the SAG, PGA, and WGA behind it. *Sigh*. So much to process right now. I’ll check in later after I’ve had more time to think.

“And too much of the style where the composer tries to mirror a character’s changing emotions with music. Like each flipping emotion! For those who don’t know what I mean, watch TFA again and see how often background music is used (even in scenes which arguably should have little or no music), skipping from “happy music” to sad music” to “concerned music” back to “happy music” as a character on screen experiences those emotions. Overdone.”

I’ll admit I missed that, despite having seen the movie twice… So… maybe it’s NOT so bad, after all?! Just saying. (Unless you think my opinion counts for absolutely nothing, whereas yours is inevitably correct.)

I agree, I still think “Spotlight” has the edge.

How does The Force Awakens get a score nomination? What is memorable about the TFA score compared to Williams earlier fantastic work in films such as A New Hope or The Empire Strikes Back? I have to see TFA again but what did I miss in terms of the score? Also if TFA had a dog in it, Williams would cue happy strings every flipping time that dog wagged it’s tail, lol. The incessant mirror of background music channeling character changing emotions in TFA annoyed me, although in all fairness I have a particular dislike for that style of scoring. Not that you shouldn’t match music to the emotional components of scenes. But to nearly every flipping change in emotion of a character?!

I would call you a sadistic hippophilic necrophile, but that would be beating a dead horse.

Subjective.

Sorry, but i assume that anyone who says that Stallone doesn’t deserve this nomination is a complete idiot. He deserves it!

🙂

Nor was directing.

That year, bells rang when The Blind Side got a Best Picture nomination. When that happened, everyone knew who would eventually win Best Actress.

Also: An Education, 2009: Best Picture, Actress, Adapted Screenplay (Nick Hornby)

Ring any bells? I hope Saoirse doesn’t go Mulligan’s route and, instead, wins, though, but it looks like Larson’s going to (also deservingly) take it

I hear you. I usually like Mark Ruffalo but lately I can’t stand him. I’d prefer Idris Elba or even Michael Keaton over him anytime.

I told you guys about Vikander, no way a newbie would score a double nomination.

A few things about the nominees: I’m so freaking happy about Mad Max, it deserves every award.
Tom Hardy? F yeah!!! I was ecstatic when I saw him. Too bad Jacob Tremblay and Idris Elba didn’t make it though.

And Jennifer Lawrence… Well I like the girl but it seems they nominate her for anything. That spot belonged to Charlize.

As for BP and BD, Room was a nice surprise! And Ridley Scott was robbed, period.

You probably shouldn’t get your hopes up, given how many people compete for those things. Somebody is bound to have gotten over 90% – or AT LEAST over 85%.

But, either way, good job!

You do realize The Weeknd is nominated in the original song category…and last time I checked he’s black. Other than that yea…#Oscarsowhite

Yes, there has not been a BP nomination for an animated film since the new rule. I think Sasha is correct here… It has made it harder and harder for one to break through. If it was back in the 10 nomination phase, I think it gets in. I also think Up had easier competition than Inside Out had this year…

And About Schmidt (2002) – and maybe more before 1997, haven’t checked.
Both of those would almost definitely have missed even had there been 5-10 nominees.

This is rich. I truly hope he is really J.J. Abrams downing some booze and Zuckerberging all of us and having a great time.

McAdams was okay. I thought she would stand out more but she didn’t. Tucci, Schreiber and Keaton were the highlights.

I don’t hate that snub either. It’s a fine screenplay, but it’s not amazing, or anything. I would have nominated it, but probably not given it the win.

Star Wars was empty popcorn. Had no business in BP conversation.

It’s definitely not Mad Max, and it’s 95% sure it’s not The Revenant, in my opinion.

I didn’t say anything about Big Short and the Globes, though. I think Spotlight was being looked at as THE frontrunner, and we have seen that backfire time and again (Social Network, Boyhood, etc.). I think it matters that a movie doesn’t look like a shoo-in because then it leads to backlash. Even if The Big Short had won at the Globes, it didn’t have the same sort of expectations going in, so I don’t think it “needed” the loss to look like an underdog. If that makes any sense.

98th, 77% 🙂

I read that Beasts Of No Nation had a lot of high-caliber supporters within the industry, that hosted private screenings with Academy members.

And precursors favored Elba’s chances.

I suppose Netflix is still to much of an issue for pompous AMPAS.

There’s always a year where “no film since so-and-so has done such-and-such” and a lot of the time the “rule” is broken. Like best screenplay at the Golden Globes. Since 1996 only 3 films, as of this morning, have won the Golden Globe for best screenplay and have not gone on to an Oscar nomination, which means Sorkin was “supposed” to be nominated for an Oscar this year. People thought Argo couldn’t happen because Affleck wasn’t nominated saying, “No film since Driving Miss Daisy has won best picture without a director nomination.”

Yeah, cause The Big Short wasn’t shut out of the Globes at all.

GG =/= Oscars and I think HFPA only confirmed they’re not compatible with Academy as was shown in recent years.

Agreed. Compare TFA to A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back. In my opinion there is little memorable in TFA in terms of score. And too much of the style where the composer tries to mirror a character’s changing emotions with music. Like each flipping emotion! For those who don’t know what I mean, watch TFA again and see how often background music is used (even in scenes which arguably should have little or no music), skipping from “happy music” to sad music” to “concerned music” back to “happy music” as a character on screen experiences those emotions. Overdone. If TFA had a dog in it, there would be incessant “happy background music” each time the dog wagged it’s tail!

Jeb Bush spent the most money so he should be President?

I bet you think that Daisy Ridley deserved the spot, right?

“Also special shoutout to Rachel McAdams for Spotlight!! They really liked Spotlight, they really did!! It should have gotten a score nom IMO, but that’s slightly beside the point. McAdams’s performance very significantly stood out upon a second viewing of the movie in theaters, and I personally think she really deserves it.”

All of this.

I wonder if it partially had to do with the Netflix release and people chafing at it being too far outside the studio system.

Anyway, how did Idris Elba miss? Especially losing that spot to Ruffalo?

4 top-tier Oscar nominations, a Golden Globe win and a potential SAG win for Brie Larson and Jacob Tremblay. Come on, the arthouse market is ripe for the picking now.

Dumb bitch

I feel like there’s breakout potential there… at the very least it should be able to do what WHIPLASH did (i.e. double it’s gross going forward).

That Director nomination gives Larson an edge over Ronan too, I’d say.

HAHAHAHA Courage!

For those of you who think The Revenant is the frontrunner because it led the nominations at 12, consider this:

No film since Braveheart has a film won Best Picture Oscar without a nominations for SAG Best Ensemble, and…

No film since Hamlet (1948) has a film won Best Picture Oscar while receiving no screenwriting nominations from either WGA or Oscar (Even Greatest Show on Earth had Best Story).

That cunt!

Well, if they don’t expand now, they’re crazy. It’s the king of the arthouse films now, they should take advantage of that,

It took an extraordinary amount of courage to admit their mistake and add TFA.

Biggest con was MMFR missing a score nomination, and TFA getting one. TFA score was largely non-memorable. I think back to Williams work in earlier series films such as A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back, in comparison TFA didn’t bring it. And in my opinion TFA had too much of that style where a composer attempts to mirror too closely each changing emotion of the character on screen with background music, that gets old quick.

I thinks it’s going to be hard to catch up with other big budget films coming out very soon (The Fifth Wave, Hail, Ceasar, Deadpool, Zoolander 2) as well as competing with the other nominees.