Two big movies hit the Oscar race this week. Ridley Scott’s wildly entertaining crowdpleaser, The Martian and Steven Spielberg’s contemplative, cerebral Bridge of Spies. Both films celebrate the goodness in people. Both films affirm human ingenuity and problem solving in life or death situations. Both films leave you feeling good by the end, and more than that — hopeful about the world and our place in it. At the same time, both films are being underestimated for different reasons.
The thing about the Oscar race, though, is that it doesn’t just come down to the opinion of one crabby critic or another pretentious blogger. It comes down to a vote of thousands. A consensus vote that does not account for peculiarities. As a reflection of the earnest pleasures of moviegoing, it’s a consensus that may rise a few notches above the VMAs and the People’s Choice but not by much. It doesn’t seem to matter what the critics choose, nor does it matter what the early awards doyens position out front.
If you’re talking about the Oscars, the only thing that ultimately matters is what “they” think, the 6000 or so mostly white, mostly male, mostly elderly industry professionals. What the pundits try to do — and actually everybody and anybody on Twitter now — is second guess what “they” will do. They do this in two ways. Either they question if a film isn’t good enough, or else they wonder if it doesn’t suit the tastes of the Academy — too genre-y, too far outside their usual definition of “Highest Achievement in Film.”
The thing about it though? Nobody knows anything. Not really. I was speaking to Scott Feinberg about this at an event in Santa Barbara. He said it really bothers him when I say that because he feels it isn’t true. There are things we do know, he said. Things we can know. And to a degree that’s right. Jurassic World is never going to be nominated for Best Picture. We know even Star Wars is a long shot. We know some names will never get anywhere near the Dolby. At the same time, though, there are so many things we don’t know and can’t know.
Feinberg turned out to be right, however, last year when he declared Gone Girl would never appeal to most Academy voters. Last year we did the math and came up with one of three possible choices to win Best Picture: 1) Boyhood, 2) The Imitation Game and 3) Birdman. It turned out to be Birdman. But there was a lot of ups and downs along the way. Scott’s skepticism about Gone Girl and what “they” would do turned out to be right on the money. Some of the same skepticism is now being applied to several new films about to get vetted by bloggers.
It’s worth noting that while Scott Feinberg and many others guessed “right” about Gone Girl, they were just as wrong about everything else, up to and including the Best Picture frontrunner. No one saw Birdman coming and the reason for that was that no one thought “they” would go for it. It was too weird, too dark, too quirky. It wasn’t serious enough. In dumbing down our expectations for what “they” would do we limited our choices too much.
In my predictions last year for Best Picture — Because Sometimes We’re Wrong — I ended up correctly predicting six out of the eventual eight. (On October 17, 2014, Selma and American Sniper had yet to be seen). Sure, I had Gone Girl at number two, and Foxcatcher in there but I don’t think it was crazy to think they would love those movies as much as I did. In fact, Bennett Miller landed a Best Director nomination and Rosamund Pike was in for Best Actress, so there was quite possibly enough support that both those films would have been BP nominees in a field of 10 instead of 8. Predicting them wasn’t “wrong,” as many like to position Oscar predicting. Go big or go home is the way to approach it. After all, you can be right about the one thing and then wrong about everything else.
Only one pundit on this list predicted more than 6 correctly and that was Fandango’s Dave Karger, still the King of Oscar predicting. Each pundit has his own method of predicting and I don’t know what Dave’s is. He somehow just knows or senses things the rest of us don’t. Keep in mind both Dave and I predicted American Sniper and Selma to get in sight unseen. This was only October, before the AFI film fest. How did we know? Who knows? A lucky guess or something more?
For his part, Pete Hammond has opted out of this early predicting ranking madness. He has said that he will no longer participate in Gurus of Gold or Gold Derby, at least not at the moment. Anne Thompson, who only predicted films she’d seen, still managed to predict 6 out of the eventual 8.
No matter how good I am at predicting the Oscar nominations — and I’m decent enough at it — people will still come at me telling me how wrong I am about a presumed favorite. The most recent example of this was The Martian where someone on Twitter kept telling me that there was no way The Martian was even getting nominated. Why did I have it so high in my rankings, he asked. Why is it higher than Spotlight or Steve Jobs? My answer to him then and now is that it is just a hunch.
The first part of my hunch is based on Anne Thompson’s reaction to the movie. Her confidence in it makes me look twice at what some would describe as a popcorn movie. Next to Dave Karger, Thompson is really good at this game and always has been. If she thinks The Martian is good enough, that is enough for me to consider it. Second, I saw the movie. I saw it twice and could go back and see it again. It’s likable, charming, and even quite moving by the end. Anne Thompson summed it best by saying it has that Argo thing — you leave the theater feeling good about people. Third, it’s Ridley Scott, stupid. If you cover the race you know that the director often leads. Big, well known directors doing great work almost always get paid more attention than lesser known names. This is especially true when they’ve delivered a few misfires and finally have a big success on their hands. Fourth, The Martian got a solid A from Cinemascore. While movies like The Help and Ant-Man also got an A, Argo and The King’s Speech were solid A movies too. You can’t ignore that, not with all of the other things to consider.
Bridge of Spies is likewise being underestimated, I think, by people who cover the race. After the New York Film Festival screening, early reports were that it could be too subdued to get recognition. This is definitely true if you’re talking about bloggers and critics. It is not true if you’re talking about Academy members. Bridge of Spies is an absorbing movie about a time many of the voters lived through. It is a class act up one side and down the other. The only thing that will keep it off the list is if there are better movies coming down the pike. Let’s remember that these reservations expressed about Bridge of Spies exactly match what was being said about Lincoln 2 years ago — doubts that persisted right up the morning of Jan 10 when Lincoln received 12 nominations.
I try to listen less to what people tell me I should be thinking and more about the things I know to be true about the Oscar race — and those things constitute a very small list. So here’s what I know to be true about finding Best Picture.
Think five, not ten
PGA members 6,500 (ten slot nomination ballot, preferential voting)
DGA members 16,000 (five slot nomination ballot, plurality voting)
SAG members 100,000 (five slot nomination ballot, plurality voting)
BAFTA members 6,000 or so (five slot nomination ballot, plurality voting)
Academy members 6,000 or so (five slot nomination ballot, preferential voting)
The only two ballots that count preferential are the PGA and Oscar. The PGA has a similar enough population to match the Academy — therefore they are as close as you’re going to get to how to the Academy votes.
Last year the PGA had Foxcatcher, Nightcrawler and Gone Girl but the Academy’s five-slot ballot omitted these darker films and went for the ones that made them FEEL better.
Producers Guild | Best Picture
Won PGA | Won Oscar
2014
Birdman | Birdman |
American Sniper | American Sniper |
Boyhood | Boyhood |
Foxcatcher | Foxcatcher |
Gone Girl | Gone Girl |
The Grand Budapest Hotel | The Grand Budapest Hotel |
The Imitation Game | The Imitation Game |
Nightcrawler | Nightcrawler |
The Theory of Everything | The Theory of Everything |
Whiplash | Whiplash |
2013
Gravity | Gravuty |
12 Years a Slave | 12 Years a Slave |
American Hustle | American Hustle |
Blue Jasmine | Blue Jasmine |
Captain Phillips | Captain Phillips |
Dallas Buyers Club | Dallas Buyers Club |
Her | Her |
Nebraska | Nebraska |
Saving Mr. Banks | |
The Wolf of Wall Street | The Wolf of Wall Street |
2012
Argo | Argo |
Moonrise Kingdom | Amour |
Beasts of the Southern Wild | Beasts of the Southern Wild |
Les Misérables | Les Misérables |
Life of Pi | Life of Pi |
Zero Dark Thirty | Zero Dark Thirty |
Silver Linings Playbook | Silver Linings Playbook |
Lincoln | Lincoln |
Skyfall | |
Django Unchained | Django Unchained |
2011
The Artist | The Artist |
The Help | The Help |
Midnight in Paris | Midnight in Paris |
The Ides of March | Tree of Life |
War Horse | War Horse |
The Descendants | The Descendants |
Bridesmaids | |
Hugo | Hugo |
Moneyball | Moneyball |
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo | Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close |
2010
The King’s Speech | The King’s Speech |
The Town | Winter’s Bone |
The Fighter | The Fighter |
The Social Network | The Social Network |
Benjamin Button | Benjamin Button |
Black Swan | Black Swan |
The Kids Are All Right | The Kids Are All Right |
Inception | Inception |
Toy Story 3 | Toy Story 3 |
True Grit | True Grit |
127 Hours | 127 Hours |
2009
The Hurt Locker | The Hurt Locker |
Star Trek | A Serious Man |
An Education | An Education |
Avatar | Avatar |
District 9 | District 9 |
Inglourious Basterds | Inglourious Basterds |
Precious | Precious |
Invictus | The Blind Side |
Up | Up |
Up in the Air | Up in the Air |
Backlash against the frontrunner is a real thing
No one likes being a foregone conclusion. If the entire industry is being told they have to vote for Boyhood because the critics said so you can pretty much guarantee they aren’t going to vote for Boyhood. There are exceptions to this rule, of course, like The Artist — which won many awards all the way through and was beloved across the board. Still, pity the film the pundits put at the top of the list in October. Its chances are greatly diminished just by its position on their charts. That doesn’t stop people from putting films up there — because you never know which way the hurricane will turn.
Probably there will be an inclination go bigger rather than smaller
Last year’s slate of “smallish” movies seemed to leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. How did it help Big Hollywood preserve itself at all? What did it say about the studio system when only one Best Picture contender made $100 million? This year, Big Hollywood is back with a vengeance — Warner bros, Fox, Universal — all potentially major players this year. That will be good for ratings, good for the Oscars and good for the economics of Hollywood overall.
It feel like this could be a year full of surprises
Don’t let anyone tell you they know how this year is going to go. They have best guesses but in truth, there are so many question marks, so many potential interlopers and game changers that it’s really hard to focus on what a consensus of thousands will do. It is possible the lineup will be filled with movies no one has seen yet. It’s possible that for the first time in almost a decade the Best Picture winner could be a movie released long after Telluride. It’s possible that there will be more movies nominated starring women, and possible there won’t be any movies starring women. Here is where we are all in the dark.
Context is everything
There is much happening in our culture right now and those feelings will play a part in what films make it to the big show. Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders will have some impact. So will Donald Trump. Films with social relevance often seem more appealing when viewed during an election year. That gives a movie like Bridge of Spies a boost.
Finding our Feel Good Moment
Something tells me this year, after such a depressing year last year, will take us headlong into optimism and feelgood endings. That gives movies like The Martian, Spotlight, Bridge of Spies maybe Joy a boost — and probably hurts the movies that end on a downer note.
Herewith, my predictions so far – though it feels like finding my way through a very dark room — so far, films that have been seen and fit within the time frame of pre-October movies:
- The Martian – I can’t really defend my hunch here and there’s a very good chance I will be wrong. It premiered in Toronto, not Telluride or earlier and it is suffused with humor. It’s just that it has so many things going for it, not the least of which is Andy Weir’s book. It’s about science, friendship and hope for the future. It’s also a film that will appeal to voters in many of the categories – branch by branch. PGA, WGA and DGA nominations assured, maybe even SAG.
- Spotlight – It’s still the film that no one can complain about. The only thing that hurts it is the hype coming out of the film festival season. It’s good enough to be represented in all of the major categories and will easily get PGA, SAG, WGA and DGA nominations.
- Steve Jobs – Sorkin’s word opera seems to be delighting viewers so far, no reason to expect it won’t keep the train rolling. Maybe PGA, WGA, SAG.
- Bridge of Spies – Handsomely mounted, tailor-made for the crafts branches, acting and writing branches. Might it be too subdued for a Spielberg movie? It’s possible. For now, I’m thinking PGA, DGA, WGA.
- Room – This is an extremely well-liked film that might hit with all demos. It won the audience award in Toronto which puts it high on the list for a nod. PGA, WGA.
- Brooklyn – A charming period piece that many have already begun to call their favorite film of the year so far.
- Beasts of No Nation – I can’t give up on what is the best film I’ve seen this year so far. My fellow pundits are convinced it is “too much” for the Academy and that may turn out to be true. BUT if they are really in the business of rewarding “highest achievements in film” they risk their reputation if they ignore such a masterpiece.
- Youth – This is the one film about Hollywood and its tragic players. It’s an homage as much as an exposé but it remains to be seen what the voters will think of it. We presume they will love it but we can’t know for certain.
- Carol – This film seems to be losing a bit of steam, unfortunately, and I worry that it isn’t going to be a “top five” for voters based on what I’ve been hearing from people. It is a beautiful love story, one that will be remembered long after the Oscar race concludes. It will either go baby go or it will stall, leaving only the tech categories, the screenplay and acting categories honored.
- Mad Max: Fury Road – though George Miller’s reputation could pull this one through – and it’s likely to be among the top five for many voters, it is also losing steam, or appears to be, here in the last part of the year.
Ranking of films yet to be seen, based on hunches:
- The Revenant – (Sight unseen) This is a wowzer film judging by the trailer. We might see Chivo win his third consecutive cinematography Oscar and it looks like Leonardo DiCaprio might finally win an Oscar. PGA, DGA maybe SAG.
- Joy – (Sight unseen) It looks like it will be loved by actors (SAG), and should do well across the board. PGA, WGA, DGA
- The Hateful Eight (Sight unseen) Based on Quentin Tarantino’s likability, the actors involved.
Question Marks
- Sicario – Strangely dark but many are coming up saying how much they loved the movie.
- The Danish Girl – seems like it could be a player but final outcome unknown.
- Black Mass – Probably out but Johnny Depp’s performance might keep it afloat.
- The Big Short – AFI premiere and who ever knows how these things go.
- Suffragette – impossible to say how this all female joint will play.
- Truth – it seems to be flying quietly under the radar so that it can open and hopefully make some money before the controversy hits.
When all is said and done the consensus doesn’t feel fully formed and likely won’t be until the big movies upcoming have their screenings. Thus, we all have to be patient and fight against the urge to dumb down our choices in order to suit what “they” will do. In the end, nobody knows anything.
Everyone continues to overlook the potential of Paranormal Activity: The Ghost Dimension. Not only does the film act as the final entry in the Paranormal Activity saga, it promises to answer all the questions about the mythology and ghosty whatnots. What are the ghosts, and can people stop them on video camera?? Find out this October in 3D and RealD 3D everywhere. Is 2016 the first year we wake up early to see a 3D found footage horror saga finale best picture nominee?
-Watermelons
Hey there Oscar watchers, miss me? :p
Anyways, I love Spielberg and I’m really looking forward to Bridge of Spies but it looks like it’s going to have to do better than the reviews have started out to truly be in the Awards conversation; only 76 on Metacritic so far and more importantly only 82 on the BFCA website. I know I mention the 85 of higher BFCA rule of thumb every year and get flack for it but the rule held strong yet again last year which means 2011 is still the only year in recent history to not follow this trend. How I wish this wasn’t the case as last year Nolan’s Interstellar fell off the list with a low 80’s score and subsequently if Bridge of Spies doesn’t pick up a few more points I fear it will suffer the same fate…
This is Ghost Dimension’s year
Oh Ryan!
You’re so bitter you can’t even manage to be sarcastic..
Whatever. Go back to the world where you’re always right and know best.
Sorry but you make very little sense.
oh ok. I guess you’re saying because Gone Girl very possibly and quote plausibly was the 6th choice in the screenplay category (and other categories) that must mean EVERYBODY in the AMPAS “wanted to avoid it.”
— because your assumption that coming in 6th means nobody in the Academy liked Gone Girl makes all kinds of sense.
Because of course, if so many many people in the Academy “wanted to avoid” Gone Girl, what better way to prove their displeasure than to nominate Gone Girl herself. Zooey, you make so much sense.
“Pike could have been in danger”
yes. As evidenced by the 31 awards she won for Gone Girl. What good sense you’re making.
You might want to double-check your logic to see if there were any other actresses last year besides Rosamund Pike and Jennifer Aniston if the voters truly hated them both almost equally.
…potentially swapping out Tarantino for Alejandro G. Inarritu. I predict The Revenant will not be a major player for BP, but Inarritu’s camerawork will be undeniable.
My predictions as of now:
Picture:
Beasts of No Nation
Bridge of Spies
The Danish Girl
The Hateful Eight
Joy
Room
Spotlight
Steve Jobs
Director:
Cary Fukunaga
Tom Hooper
Quentin Tarantino
David O. Russell
Tom McCarthy
@ Ryan,
Sorry but you make very little sense. Yes, I disagree that Interstellar was closer to a best picture nomination than Gone Girl. Let’s face it – both were unlikely and both films weren’t well-liked by Oscar voters. But your take at the adapted screenplay category is not logical at all. The fact that Gone Girl was considered a lock and a front-runner to win the Oscar and was snubbed (after all the awards and the attention) is more telling of a film not being liked by a voting body than Nolan not making it. He wasn’t expected to be nominated to begin with. Flynn was a lock. She won the Critics’ Choice, had Globe/BAFTA/WGA at her side. The film was popular and it started the season quite strong. The snub here (as well as snubs across the board for the film) is an indication that voters wanted to avoid the film. And had best actress been stronger (let’s face it – they wouldn’t nominate Jennifer Anniston just like they wouldn’t nominate Jim Carrey), Pike could have been in danger, no matter how good the performance is.
I have this quintet, right now…
Beasts of No Nation
The Danish Girl
The Hateful Eight (alt. Mad Max: Fury Road)
Room
Spotlight
Call me crazy, but this is how I feel it might end up being… Room as the little film that could, Beasts of No Nation as they film that they may be unable to deny some recognition, the rest as films that are likely to be embraced by most branches… I am torn between Hateful and Fury Road for that action/blockbuster/genre spot and while I feel Miller will prevail, Quentin has the best shot thanks to its release.
I don’t have that many hopes on Steve Jobs, The Martian (if Gravity didn’t happen…), The Revenant (if Birdman didn’t happen…), and I honestly think Bridge of Spies could go either way. It’s still too early to call, for sure, but those five films I’ve mentioned, look well as a quintet, all together.
Sasha, I wonder if you’ve already seen Brooklyn? Kris Tapley has been vocal on how he likes the film. But haven’t heard/read a review from you if it’s a legit BP player and its merits outside the Oscar talk.
Haven’t seen most of the BP contenders this year but looks like Fox Searchlight will be pushing Brooklyn and Youth this year. TWC has Carol and the upcoming The Hateful Eight but I remember Harvey pushed more for Silver Linings Playbook over Django Unchained that year.
It’s exciting that we don’t have a clear frontrunner yet at this early of the race.
Funniest moments from The Martian http://sh.st/bgs43sfeQs
[hey gang. I fucked this link up to disable it. Whenever you see a link in this format, don’t click it. Obviously it’s bogus. I’ll defuse the ones I find and leave them so you can recognize what they are. But I can’t always catch them all. Just be aware that these are phishing links and ignore them. Little by little we’ll hammer the shit out of them and they’ll stop. – Ryan]
[these are all originating from a little town in Poland called Katowice, from a location right beside the Warszawska Highway. Hey, Katowice dipshits. We’re onto you. You’ve been reported. Now you wait to see what happens next.]
I don’t agree with the bullishness on The Martian, but I respect the impulse behind it, and you might be right about the Revenge of the Crowd Pleaser being a thing this year.
I just don’t believe The Martian and Bridge of Spies will benefit from it that much with films perceived as more “artistic” circling around. I feel like Mad Max’s “losing steam” is an illusory perception, and the precursor season will bring it back with a vengeance. This is of course the time where an early in the year film SEEMS weakest, but that’s only natural.
Do you think it’s possible The Revenant and The Hateful Eight suffer for being grimmer, less uplifting, if that’s the trendline of this year’s race?
Great lineup, Paddy, get back to me with your take on The Witch, I heard great things but I don’t think I’ll be able to see before next year.
But Ryan, Sasha keeps bringing up Thompson’s “branch by branch” theory as if it’s something she now uses in making her own predictions. Such a theory DOES rest on the nominations of Visual Effects, Sound Mixing and Production Design–without those nominations few films would ever amass double-digit nominations. In fact, Best Picture nominees have WON Visual Effects in 7 of the last 8 years. 8 of the 8 last Sound Mixing winners were BP nominees and 5 of the last 8 Production Design nominees were. Interstellar was nominated in all 3 of those categories. There’s also been a significant amount of coverage on this site to the fact that Best Actress nominees rarely go hand in hand with Best Picture nominees.
So my point remains the same, and it’s the only point my previous comment was making–the suggestion that BECAUSE Gone Girl was nominated for Best Actress it MUST HAVE been next in line for a Best Picture nomination is not only ludicrous, but laugh-out-loudable.
That point, though illustrated by my admitted devotion to Interstellar and disdain for Gone Girl, really has nothing to do with anything other than facts–because Interstellar was embraced by more branches, by the BRANCH BY BRANCH theory that Sasha now favors it can be suggested that it was closer to becoming a BP nominee than something that had one other nomination in one of the categories LEAST correlated to Best Picture. If the facts anyone wants to come back at me with are the laurels Gone Girl was given in precursors then, yes, I’ll LOL to that, too.
oh snap! Ryan just owned Beanutty. BAM!
(in fact, it’s what kept me harping to y’all about Interstellar all last year) — but clearly Gone Girl did not have the branch by branch support.
You seem to be oblivious to the fact that your great theory about Interstellar failed just as miserably as the theories other people had about Gone Girl. yes, you harped on Interstellar just as much as some of us harped on Gone Girl. You were wrong too, so you should probably stop crowing about it.
Let’s be really clear: Yes, please stop crowing about how Interstellar was going to build a tree to Best Picture with the weak little twigs of branches like Best Sound Mixing.
Best Picture nominees are not built of branches like Visual Effects and Production Design either. Never happens.
Your well-established hatred of Gone Girl notwithstanding, the movie you despise earned almost exactly as much as the movie you love, and Gone Girl cost less than half the budget of Interstellar. Gone Girl made a domestic profit of over $100 million while Nolan pretty much belly-flopped with a domestic profit of $10 million, his weakest box-office in 10 years. Tentpoles that barely break even do not impress the Academy.
Branch by branch,? Gillian Flynn barely missed a screenplay nomination. I’m sure you’ll disagree with that, but it will be hilarious to hear you argue that Nolan’s screenplay for Interstellar was almost nominated.
*(Evidence? Gillian Flynn won 2 dozen major awards for Gone Girl. What did Nolan win for the Interstellar screenplay?)
420 Sound Mixer dudes who dribbled pre-cum over Interstellar do not carry the same weight as 1200 actors in the actors branch who chose Rosamund Pike. And many people believe Rosamund Pike was the runner-up to win the Oscar, right behind Julianne Moore.
**(Evidence? Rosamund Pike won 31 awards for Best Actress last year and was nominated for 41 others).
Snark some more about the “weak field” of Best Actress contenders last year and then, if you want, you can boast about all the masterpiece competition Interstellar faced last year in Best Sound Editing. (Hobbits? Unbroken?)
I could’ve said “LOL” at your opinion, Benutty, like you do to Sasha. But I know dozens of less juvenile ways to be a dick.
re: “In fact, Bennett Miller landed a Best Director nomination and Rosamund Pike was in for Best Actress, so there was quite possibly enough support that both those films would have been BP nominees in a field of 10 instead of 8.”
LOL still with this. Gone Girl was competitive in many categories and was nominated in ONE of them, widely accepted as the weakest field of last year, suggesting that it DID NOT have enough support and was nowhere near a BP nomination. Stop trying to rewrite history. 9th and 10th nominees were likely Foxcatcher or Interstellar due to their ACTUAL support in FIVE other categories. Anne Thompson is right — though, to be fair, a lot of us have been using the “branch by branch” model for a long time (in fact, it’s what kept me harping to y’all about Interstellar all last year) — but clearly Gone Girl did not have the branch by branch support.
re: “Last year’s slate of “smallish” movies seemed to leave a bad taste in everyone’s mouth. How did it help Big Hollywood preserve itself at all? What did it say about the studio system when only one Best Picture contender made $100 million?”
I actually think the “smallish”-ness of last year was due largely in part to a lack of star wattage in the race. The films themselves were pretty good, small or not, but when you have THREE directors and SIX lead actors with first time nominations, I think it’s a sign that the year lacks awards superstars–the names that Academy members expect to see every year and who viewers can really get behind. All of us here love the Oscars, but can any of us argue that last year’s ceremony wasn’t dull due in large part to the dominance of new talent? I love seeing the Oscars embrace new names, but I think last year was a LOT of it and that subconsciously it took a toll on people caring.
This year we have too many stars and that’s what brings the excitement. Even if people don’t see Carol, they know the name Cate Blanchett and can care about her. Fassbender. Hanks. Depp. Lawrence. Mulligan. DiCaprio. Winslet. These are all names that stand on their own, with or without huge films behind them.
Hopefully, Phantom! I’m definitely going, I just need to make sure Sasha & Ryan still want another diary series from me! I’m seeing…
The Forbidden Room, A Bigger Splash, Tangerine, My Love Don’t Cross That River, Embrace of the Serpent, Son of Saul, The Witch, The Assassin, Evolution, Exotica Erotica Etc., Cemetery of Splendour, Carol, Taklub, The Host, The Pearl Button, Under Electric Clouds, Madonna, Park Lanes, The Sky Trembles and the Earth Is Afraid and the Two Eyes Are Not Brothers, Sunset Song.
Hey Sasha
Why is nobody talking about By The Sea? Is it because of what (didn’t) happened to Unbroken? Because the movie looks very promising.
I think that rumor about Joy is not to be believed.
I’m not sure who is spreading this rumor but from what I can tell they plan on releasing it this year.
Duke,
I think that rumor about Joy is not to be believed.
Sasha, I’ve been reading that JOY is rumored to be pushed back to 2016. Did you hear about that too?
(The fact that O. Russell got the editor from Whiplash hired in the last minute to help putting the movie together really doesnt count in its favor).
What happened to Macbeth? I’m still really excited to see that movie.
The Martian was good but I didn’t think it was great…it could or could not get nominated for Best Picture but I don’t think it will win.
The Big Short is actually a really good movie having seen it but I don’t know how it will impact the race.
This year I truly feel like there is no front runner so I kind of want something crazy and unexpected to happen like Star Wars getting nominated for Best Picture, 🙂
But really, why isn’t anyone talking about Macbeth? It is still coming out this year, right?
Here’s the thing though, THE MARTIAN is a sooo much better motion picture than ARGO, so good it has no shot at winning Best Picture.
Also, I think we have to start seriously considering SON OF SAUL in Picture/Director/Screenplay.
Agreed. I think it could do some major damage in all categories. I just have to see it first!
Phantom I also forgot to add Creed. So many question marks still.
Son of Saul and, specially Inside Out, are being vastly underestimated…
Yes Son of Saul, no Inside Out. It will not make it on top five ballots. If there were ten slots for nominations it could have a chance.
No way Harvey will allow Carol to sink as low as ninth.
But he also has Hateful Eight…
@JamDenTel If it is, I’ll cry. I’m really looking forward to that now.
I still can’t believe The Big Short isn’t some kind of joke.
Sifting through the buzz online, this year mirrors 2012 more and more with the lack of an obvious frontrunner. Right now, if I was to bet Spotlight wins, but I don’t think I’ll feel the same in December. My biggest hunch, a non-festival film takes it home (The Revenant or Joy).
I’m going to guess ten for fun because I know how bad I am at this and it will be funny to look back later.
Sicario
Black Mass
The Big Short
The Martian
Steve Jobs
Beasts of No Nation
Joy
You know what? My vibes stopped at 7. Hmm.. I’d love it if THE GIFT or STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON made it but maybe they’re too early. I know what I left off but that’s just what happened. A lot of the other big ones felt redundant. I actually feel like THE MARTIAN is a lock. It feels like it and I can’t think of one good reason that they all wouldn’t find space for it on their ballots. But I don’t ever say lock.
Well count me as one of those who will be surprised if The Martian makes a BP nomination. It only has that Argo thing in that loosest of senses: it’s a feel-good charming thriller. But it is not a tight piece of filmmaking from beginning to end like Argo was. (And like, from what it sounds like, Spotlight is.) The passion for Argo came primarily from that exceptional quality of the “whole work,” and sounds like that’s also what will give Spotlight some “umph.”
The Martian has people leaving the theater going “It was great!” But it does not have people saying “It is a great film.” I don’t think that distinction is lost on people voting on the best at the year’s end. It is no Apollo 13, and it is no Gravity, though it tries to approximate both. (And I really liked the movie.)
Meanwhile, while I haven’t seen Bridge of Spies, recent history has demonstrated that the Academy appreciates (rightly) Spielberg’s recent classical, contemplative style of filmmaking more than pundits do. Munich, War Horse, AND Lincoln, ladies and gentlemen. (All great films that deserved nominations in my opinion.) It may be that Bridge of Spies is not as good as those, but if it’s on par, no reason not to expect a nomination.
Thanks, Paddy, I hope you’re right because I loved 45 Years (really rooting for Charlotte Rampling’s career nomination) and I would hate to see arguably THE most original (and inventive and simply brilliant) Pixar film NOT get a Best Picture nomination. Let’s hope the Academy will be on the same page.
P.S. LFF diary coming soon ? Which films ?
I hope Sicario has some type of shot. I’m glad it did so well in limited release and I’m glad general audiences are reacting so well to it. I mean yea it has action beats, but it’s pace is meticulous and yet it seems to be doing well all around. I have plenty to see this October, but before I do I just might see Sicario again.
No way Harvey will allow Carol to sink as low as ninth. Looks like he’s doing his Gangs of New York act early and putting every single one of his eggs in the same basket, and rightly so, I think. Losing steam it may be, though only from a certain perspective – the reactions to this film aren’t getting any worse, and TWC have done an excellent job at keeping it in the conversation through the whole year so far since it premiered at Cannes. It could win the whole thing in a walk. It’s in this for the long haul.
My money’s still on Youth, though. It remains the only film that fits the mould 100% imo. My feeling is that the average Academy voter will respond extremely warmly indeed to this film. It’s about elderly men, artists, out of touch with a culture they consider cheaper and inferior to that which they once helped to shape, rich, misunderstood geniuses surrounded by beautiful women and gorgeous scenery… well, that bit’s the wish-fulfillment, but that’ll only make the film’s appeal even more irresistible. The style of the film ought to help, being conventionally artistic, that is to say it’s artsy but in an old-school way. Fellini, not Antonioni. More the Academy’s cup of tea overall. And Michael Caine, Harvey Keitel, Rachel Weisz, Jane Fonda. They’ll drink this shit right up.
As usual, we could all do with paying a whole lot more attention to Phantom, who’s on the money about near everything in their post. Except…
I’d bet a sizeable sum of cash that, come January, we won’t be viewing either 45 Years or Inside Out as dark horses. Mark my words, they’re serious contenders.
Ryan, I agree, although SICARIO had a $30 million budget, so it helps if it’s not perceived as a money loser… It will get there, but it’s not there at this point.
Martian/Gravity vs Jobs/Social Network. Arguably, Martian and Jobs are better candidates than Gravity and Social Network.
a movie that does not scream “mainstream movie-goer support”.
There’s a convenient way to measure movie-goer support.
In 3 weeks Sicario has already sold more movie tickets than Whiplash sold worldwide in 25 weeks.
Sicario is $2 million away from selling more tickets than Nebraska sold. Worldwide.
A month from now, Sicario will easily have sold more tickets than Boyhood, Her and Dallas Buyers Club.
Sicario has already sold more tickets than Beasts of the Southern Wild and Amour combined.
If we want to see Sicario’s chances undermined, we can keep on talking about how it’s not for everybody instead of talking about how much people who’ve seen it are blown away by it.
The 7 Best Picture nominees I’ve named here are proof that movies don’t need to earn that big Birdman money ($40 million) in order to get a Best Picture nomination.
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Son of Saul and, specially Inside Out, are being vastly underestimated…
JH,
Yes, thank you. I feel like the pundits are really underestimating Son of Saul.
JH, I am also happily surprised by the A- CinemaScore for Sicario – a great movie, but a movie that does not scream “mainstream movie-goer support”.
Very thorough breakdown of the Race right now. Loved reading this.
I also wonder how far The Martian can go.
Yes, I can see PGA, DGA, and possible WGA noms.
Branch by branch (building a BP nominee/potential winner), I see music voters, visual effects voters, sound designers, production designers, cinematographers, editors, directors, producers, even writers (more so than with GRAVITY) throwing this movie votes.
Hmm. Will be fascinating to follow.
And if some people are referring to The Martian as a possible Argo-like contender, then that’s just swell for me. I enjoyed The Martian quite a bit more so than Argo.
Great piece, Sasha. I see where you’re coming from re: Carol but I really hope our doubts are much ado about nothing, I would hate to see the ridiculously underrated Todd Haynes miss out on a Best Director nod this year. As for Suffragette, well Feinberg seems to think the Academy won’t give two fucks about it and though I hope he is wrong, he tends to get this shit right.
Also, a few more dark horses :
– SON OF SAUL (The Academy used to give BP and/or BD nods to foreign language films in every few years…three years after Amour, could it be that time again ?)
– INSIDE OUT (Have we already forgotten about this one ? I sure hope not.)
– STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON (Good reviews and stellar BO automatically results at least consideration but reports of an apparently smash Academy screening definitely makes me think we should watch out for this one.)
– 45 YEARS (Rave reviews and beloved, elderly veterans was a combo the Academy embraced three years ago. Will they surprise again ?)
– THE LADY IN THE VAN (Probably not. Philomena – also a British crowdpleaser headlined by a beloved female acting giant – could pull it off because it had better reviews, (probably) better BO and, well, Weinstein.)
– BY THE SEA (The big question mark of the season. AFI will clear this one soon enough.)
– CRIMSON PEAK (A classy, gothic horror from Guillermo Del Toro should definitely be the very least in the conversation.)
– SPECTRE (Skyfall ALMOST made it. Question remains, was that “almost” the peak of the franchise’s Oscar potential or could it actually make the cut this time ?)
– THE SECRET IN THEIR EYES (That cast with that source material definitely warrants consideration.)
– IN HEART OF THE SEA (Sure, it could be another Exodus (disappointing December tentpole wannabe masquarading as a prestige pic) but for some reason, I think this will be the big surprise of the season. We’ll see soon enough.)
– CONCUSSION (Looks like a simple star vehicle for now, clearly we’ll know more after AFI.)
Also, I think we have to start seriously considering SON OF SAUL in Picture/Director/Screenplay.
Sicario getting an A- Cinemascore is legitimately shocking. I think it might have more audience appeal that we’ve presumed.
After having watched Mad Max again over the weekend I firmly believe it’ll make a big splash at the Oscars. But I also firmly believe Theron (I liked her) will not contend for a lead or supporting Oscar, nor should she. I think Sicario will be the sleeper of the year and come up with best actress, supporting actor, original screenplay, cinematography and sound editing nominations. Tarantino will most likely be nominated for original screenplay and bypass the WGA once again.